Mullet's 1500hp TTG

[rlhay2]

Originally Posted by blownaltered All that race is, is organized roll racing.

Yep.
And high hp dig racing is a test of parts durability. Not knocking dig racing, but some hate the "maintenance" costs.

Originally Posted by STROKD They go 180 in qtr too.

...but with a 1.8x 60 ft time...
Lambos have a ridiculously long 1st gear, this allows 2-6 to emulate a close ratio transmission.

It's a form of racing that is not for everyone.
But it is FUN!!
Other than the Texas Mile, where else can you legally throw 5th gear under full boost?

[Grandpa]

Originally Posted by rlhay2 Yep. And high hp dig racing is a test of parts durability. Not knocking dig racing, but some hate the "maintenance" costs. ...but with a 1.8x 60 ft time... Lambos have a ridiculously long 1st gear, this allows 2-6 to emulate a close ratio transmission. It's a form of racing that is not for everyone. But it is FUN!! Other than the Texas Mile, where else can you legally throw 5th gear under full boost?

Agreed on all points!

I love it when the UGR cars get about half track and it looks like they get rearended by a freight train and just take off! Sound wicked too!

[Dominic Toretto]

Originally Posted by blownaltered That's a bit of a stretch don't you think. I could see you comparing the races at redline to the Nhra national events. Let's get real here roll racing isn't a nationally televised event. If it wasn't for youtube 99% of the population wouldn't have ever heard of TI. Have you ever been to a Friday night meet. There are a few cars there that go to TI and race so my comment wasn't that as far fetched as your YMCA to the cowboys comment. Seriously that was out there. Did you read that before you posted it?

Actually, it's not a stretch at all when Youtube can reach more of an audience than a nationally televised event. NBC is national, youtube is GLOBAL.

So yes, I still say it's on the same ratio of comparing a Friday night meet to this event which is much more well known. Hell, even the TX2K events are far more well known than the Friday night meet for a local group. People come from all over the country to Houston to roll race. Juss sayin.

-Alex

[Junkie]

Originally Posted by Courtesy Flush I sense jealously more than anything in this thread. All racing is the same, competition of speed in shortest amount of time to reach a specific goal. To say one form is more or less difficult than the other is silly. A 1500+hp car racing another is just plain cool. Great video.

Exactly, and its exactly how its been for years. 1/8th mile guys talk shit about 1/4. 1/4 guys talk shit about mile/half mile/TI, etc... Roll racers talk shit about drag racing.

The only issue I have with any of this. Is the judgement with lack of experience. That drives me nuts in every area of motorsports. I hear from Road Racers CONSTANTLY that they don't drag race because its boring and easy, yet they have never driven anything faster then a 12 second car and have no real world experience.

Originally Posted by Dan12GT Didn't know boosted's cars has changed so much. Your right I don't follow it much because I don't have the time so I don't know the present state of his car. I just have always heard his car car was full interior. My bad. No I don't know what it's like to have a billion hp car and roll race because I don't care. I was simply stating that's a pretty lame form of racing to me (my personal opinion). Y'all don't have to get so defensive about that. I'm just stating my opinion.

Originally Posted by 03MachMe But but Danny they have 1300+ HP how can you not think they are cool? You guys are missing our point. Just not a fan of this type of racing. I prefer racing that is more about the driver than the car itself, which is why I like autocross and road racing. That's just my opinion. The level of skill for the driver is less than that on a road course or even drag strip imo that's all I'm saying. Yes I know it prolly takes more skill to roll race one of these compared to drag racing a Honda or some crap. Just simply stating if I had that kind of money not the kind of race car I would build. Not saying it's not cool. Fuck Yea who doesn't want to see a car do 180 in a safe environment but just not my cup of tea. More impressive to me if it can do 180 in the 1/4

Not thinking its cool, and it not being your fine is all well and good. The only thing im disagreeing with is how you guys seem to take that it takes less setup/skill/etc... to get these cars to hook. When in reality you have no experience with it. Experience > reading shit in motor trend and thinking you know whats up

Originally Posted by DirtyD I don't see 180 out of some of these cars. Maybe 175 or so. Only because they make up so much MPH on the back half.

Several have been 180+ at the track

Originally Posted by blownaltered I think the elitist group are missing the point. Nobody is saying the cars aren't cool. I know it takes some skill to drive them but no where near road racing or drag racing (not saying these cars can't do it, had to say that before that got thrown in my face). I just don't find it entertaining to watch, maybe its different in person I don't know. That's my whole complaint is its not fun to watch. Its roll racing, roll racing isn't that fun to watch in person let alone on the computer. Before this gets going I know my fox is slow and I can't compete with these cars. I do not have car penis envy, so that's not why I am saying this. Don't bring up drag racing either because it takes a hell of a long time to get a setup dialed in and running the times you want. I did race for a long time and my 1/8 and 1/4 miles times are better than most the cars on this site and dfwm. I just don't brag about them, now that I sold it I really can't but I didn't brag when I was running those times.

This is the type of post that drives me nuts.

You are saying it takes less skill and effort. I'm asking you if you've done it personally? Otherwise how do you know how much skill/effort it takes to put down 1500whp without track prep at a 60mph start?



Once again. It not being your thing, fine. You thinking its lame, fine. You hating rich people, fine. You hating religion, fine. Dont give a crap about any of that.

But when I see people with no experience in a certain type of racing, talk about how easy that type of racing is. It drives me nuts, you literally have no clue what you are talking about. It really is that simple. More internet experts with no experience.

[03MachMe]

Originally Posted by Junkie Not thinking its cool, and it not being your fine is all well and good. The only thing im disagreeing with is how you guys seem to take that it takes less setup/skill/etc... to get these cars to hook. When in reality you have no experience with it. Experience > reading shit in motor trend and thinking you know whats up

my point is this all thing equal with the same car it is easier to roll race than it is to drag race and its easier to drag race than it is to road race/autox. whether its a 1500hp lambo or a 300hp mustang one thing will be harder to do than the other. To me this kind of racing is the easiest of the 3. That is just my opinion. Yes I am sure it takes quite a bit of skill to get this car to stay straight in a TI event. however I bet its even harder to launch at the track and run a fast time for its power level, and prolly even harder to control on a road course. That is all I was saying . I know these cars are stupid fast, and as they should be for the money they cost. Its just not my cup of tea. Your testing more about the car and less about the driver. If that is what you are after, to prove you own a faster car than everyone else, then this is the type of racing for you. Which is why a lot of people do it. I however would rather prove I am a better driver than others, which is why I like road/autox and occasionally the drag strip. You took it way too personal like we are saying you can't drive because you have a 1000+ hp car. Not what we were saying just that we think it takes less skill to get the same car down a roll race than it does for a dig race or a road race.

[Dan12GT]

Originally Posted by 03MachMe my point is this all thing equal with the same car it is easier to roll race than it is to drag race and its easier to drag race than it is to road race/autox. whether its a 1500hp lambo or a 300hp mustang one thing will be harder to do than the other. To me this kind of racing is the easiest of the 3. That is just my opinion. Yes I am sure it takes quite a bit of skill to get this car to stay straight in a TI event. however I bet its even harder to launch at the track and run a fast time for its power level, and prolly even harder to control on a road course. That is all I was saying . I know these cars are stupid fast, and as they should be for the money they cost. Its just not my cup of tea. Your testing more about the car and less about the driver. If that is what you are after, to prove you own a faster car than everyone else, then this is the type of racing for you. Which is why a lot of people do it. I however would rather prove I am a better driver than others, which is why I like road/autox and occasionally the drag strip. You took it way too personal like we are saying you can't drive because you have a 1000+ hp car. Not what we were saying just that we think it takes less skill to get the same car down a roll race than it does for a dig race or a road race.

Well said Ryan, exactly my view point as well!

[blownaltered]

Originally Posted by Junkie This is the type of post that drives me nuts. You are saying it takes less skill and effort. I'm asking you if you've done it personally? Otherwise how do you know how much skill/effort it takes to put down 1500whp without track prep at a 60mph start? Once again. It not being your thing, fine. You thinking its lame, fine. You hating rich people, fine. You hating religion, fine. Dont give a crap about any of that. But when I see people with no experience in a certain type of racing, talk about how easy that type of racing is. It drives me nuts, you literally have no clue what you are talking about. It really is that simple. More internet experts with no experience.

You guys are cracking me up. I don't hate rich people, I make good money off rich people. As for the elitist comment it has nothing to do with the owners of those cars. It has to do with the attitude cheap ass mustang guys were getting about not understanding real horsepower expensive cars. Come on re-read your first few posts, they do come out a little pompous or at least that is how I read it.

To answer your question no I have not been in a 1000hp plus street car so you are right in the aspect, that I don't know what it feels like. I understand controlling one of these monsters cant be easy but to say it takes major skill, I just will not agree with. Now I have been high 7's in the 1/4 and know that's not simple, I just can't see roll racing being that difficult. I could be wrong.

[Toby]

Originally Posted by Junkie Exactly, and its exactly how its been for years. 1/8th mile guys talk shit about 1/4. 1/4 guys talk shit about mile/half mile/TI, etc... Roll racers talk shit about drag racing. The only issue I have with any of this. Is the judgement with lack of experience. That drives me nuts in every area of motorsports. I hear from Road Racers CONSTANTLY that they don't drag race because its boring and easy, yet they have never driven anything faster then a 12 second car and have no real world experience. Not thinking its cool, and it not being your fine is all well and good. The only thing im disagreeing with is how you guys seem to take that it takes less setup/skill/etc... to get these cars to hook. When in reality you have no experience with it. Experience > reading shit in motor trend and thinking you know whats up Several have been 180+ at the track This is the type of post that drives me nuts. You are saying it takes less skill and effort. I'm asking you if you've done it personally? Otherwise how do you know how much skill/effort it takes to put down 1500whp without track prep at a 60mph start? Once again. It not being your thing, fine. You thinking its lame, fine. You hating rich people, fine. You hating religion, fine. Dont give a crap about any of that. But when I see people with no experience in a certain type of racing, talk about how easy that type of racing is. It drives me nuts, you literally have no clue what you are talking about. It really is that simple. More internet experts with no experience.

I could not agree with you more Will. Internet warriors that have 0 experience with any form of racing other then 12 second passes behind their bolt on cars (and I'm not trying to take a stab at anyone here just a generic statement) and they are experts of everything.

They googled it so it must be true!!

I have no experience driving one of these cars, but I have built many 1000+ rwhp cars, Ronnie's tt gt500 being one of them, and it takes a lot of suspension tweaking and power control to make these cars hook. Keep in mind a lot of these guys are leaving at 60 mph on around 700-800 hp and ramping the power in.