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blownaltered · 01-09-2014, 04:02 PM

I think the elitist group are missing the point. Nobody is saying the cars aren't cool. I know it takes some skill to drive them but no where near road racing or drag racing (not saying these cars can't do it, had to say that before that got thrown in my face). I just don't find it entertaining to watch, maybe its different in person I don't know. That's my whole complaint is its not fun to watch. Its roll racing, roll racing isn't that fun to watch in person let alone on the computer.

Before this gets going I know my fox is slow and I can't compete with these cars. I do not have car penis envy, so that's not why I am saying this.

Don't bring up drag racing either because it takes a hell of a long time to get a setup dialed in and running the times you want. I did race for a long time and my 1/8 and 1/4 miles times are better than most the cars on this site and dfwm. I just don't brag about them, now that I sold it I really can't but I didn't brag when I was running those times.

**Grandpa** · 01-09-2014, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by blownaltered

I think the elitist group are missing the point. Nobody is saying the cars aren't cool. I know it takes some skill to drive them but no where near road racing or drag racing (not saying these cars can't do it, had to say that before that got thrown in my face). I just don't find it entertaining to watch, maybe its different in person I don't know. That's my whole complaint is its not fun to watch. Its roll racing, roll racing isn't that fun to watch in person let alone on the computer.

Before this gets going I know my fox is slow and I can't compete with these cars. I do not have car penis envy, so that's not why I am saying this.

Don't bring up drag racing either because it takes a hell of a long time to get a setup dialed in and running the times you want. I did race for a long time and my 1/8 and 1/4 miles times are better than most the cars on this site and dfwm. I just don't brag about them, now that I sold it I really can't but I didn't brag when I was running those times.

Labeling "elistist" because it's not a fox isn't fair at all. Ronnie (Rlhay) has a badass Mustang worthy of running at the event and he's anything but elitist. He'll take the time to talk to anyone about cars. Very cool guy. He isn't the only Mustang or non Lambo out there. Yes, there is some high dollar cars and maybe a few "elitist" ego types, but that's not the typical type. I know a lot of these guys and they are just car guys like anyone else, their toys just happen to be a little more expensive.

It's cool, you don't like it. I get it. I think they are exciting to watch at the events and enjoy the hell out of it.

**Dan12GT** · 01-09-2014, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by blownaltered

I think the elitist group are missing the point. Nobody is saying the cars aren't cool. I know it takes some skill to drive them but no where near road racing or drag racing (not saying these cars can't do it, had to say that before that got thrown in my face). I just don't find it entertaining to watch, maybe its different in person I don't know. That's my whole complaint is its not fun to watch. Its roll racing, roll racing isn't that fun to watch in person let alone on the computer.

Before this gets going I know my fox is slow and I can't compete with these cars. I do not have car penis envy, so that's not why I am saying this.

Don't bring up drag racing either because it takes a hell of a long time to get a setup dialed in and running the times you want. I did race for a long time and my 1/8 and 1/4 miles times are better than most the cars on this site and dfwm. I just don't brag about them, now that I sold it I really can't but I didn't brag when I was running those times.

Hook, line, and sinker! BOOM! (agreed with most of this)

I do agree too though it does take some serious skill, tuning, and testing to control one of these mammoth horse power cars though

But....

You do have to agree going from a 60 roll does add some control factor to the race. The control factor meaning a safe starting speed because these cars have too much power to go from a dig for their current setup.

**Junkie** · 01-09-2014, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by Dan12GT

Hook, line, and sinker! BOOM! (agreed with most of this)

I do agree too though it does take some serious skill, tuning, and testing to control one of these mammoth horse power cars though

But....

You do have to agree going from a 60 roll does add some control factor to the race. The control factor meaning a safe starting speed because these cars have too much power to go from a dig for their current setup.

Hooking from a stop at the track is easier then it is at TI, FYI

**Dan12GT** · 01-09-2014, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by Junkie

Hooking from a stop at the track is easier then it is at TI, FYI

Then why don't they just run these cars all out from a dig then at a prepped half mile track?

**Junkie** · 01-09-2014, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by Dan12GT

Then why don't they just run these cars all out from a dig then at a prepped half mile track?

Because they don't want to dig race, I'm confused on why you refuse to see that?

Also several of these guys on radial race cars, or race teams as well.

You need to consider safety, imagine the trap speeds of a car that traps 180 in the 1/4 but in the 1/2. Also gearing, stopping distance, etc...

**Dan12GT** · 01-09-2014, 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by Junkie

Because they don't want to dig race, I'm confused on why you refuse to see that?

Also several of these guys on radial race cars, or race teams as well.

You need to consider safety, imagine the trap speeds of a car that traps 180 in the 1/4 but in the 1/2. Also gearing, stopping distance, etc...

Just trying to understand more that's all.

**Dominic Toretto** · 01-09-2014, 06:17 PM

Originally Posted by Dan12GT

Then why don't they just run these cars all out from a dig then at a prepped half mile track?

Who says they aren't? Just because this video exists, doesn't mean that they do not also do other stuff with these cars. There are people that prep the same car for 1/4 mile and autocross.

-Alex

**Dan12GT** · 01-09-2014, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto

Who says they aren't? Just because this video exists, doesn't mean that they do not also do other stuff with these cars. There are people that prep the same car for 1/4 mile and autocross.

-Alex

Well... I am sure they do as it seems these guys are into racing obviously. Just reaffirms my feelings towards it. Just not a fan of roll racing and its hard for me to see the point.

**BLK2012GT** · 01-09-2014, 06:28 PM

Good god that video had nothing but pure sex in it. And keeping any car under control doing 170 plus does take skills. I was doing 160 when I raced Eric and the car felt like it was floating. And you guys know damn well that type of racing would be a lot of fun. I would love to do that.

**Grandpa** · 01-09-2014, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Dan12GT

Well... I am sure they do as it seems these guys are into racing obviously. Just reaffirms my feelings towards it. Just not a fan of roll racing and its hard for me to see the point.

It has the same point as any other kind of racing, to compete, have fun and win.

**Grandpa** · 01-09-2014, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by Dan12GT

Hook, line, and sinker! BOOM! (agreed with most of this)

I do agree too though it does take some serious skill, tuning, and testing to control one of these mammoth horse power cars though

But....

You do have to agree going from a 60 roll does add some control factor to the race. The control factor meaning a safe starting speed because these cars have too much power to go from a dig for their current setup.

It doesn't add any control factor what-so-ever. Any of those cars with the wrong tune could just as easily blaze the tires at 60, 80, 100+. You're still thinking like a low powered horsepower guy. It's all in the tune, bring the power too soon, it will murder the tires. Too late, you get drug by the other car. Like any kind of racing, it's finding the sweet spot for the conditions.

Btw, those big "dig" cars you were talking about are notorious for breaking. Going from a dead stop, at rest, is extremely stressful on a car and those cars constantly destroy drivetrain and rearend parts, twist chassis etc. Get maybe two or three passes out of a clutch if they are actually rowing gears. The auto cars are just point and shoot using fancy traction control boxes like a Davis box that cost $15k alone.

Hell, some of those KOTH cars cost as much or more as some of the T1 GTR's and URG Lambos! lol.