Any Weight Trainers/Body Builders on Here?

[blownaltered]

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto Good work man, keep at it. Valid point. Can't argue that. Steve I am curious as to what you may have also learned about poultry meats. I love cooking with chicken breasts and turkey. Baked or grilled. -Alex

I love turkey now. I am cooking turkey loaf tomorrow night. Have that with some green beans or something and its a good meal. Low fat, good protein and tastes great.

[Grandpa]

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto Steve I am curious as to what you may have also learned about poultry meats. I love cooking with chicken breasts and turkey. Baked or grilled. -Alex

What I have learned about the meat industry so far is quite a bit actually. The regular store bought meats (both red and poultry) that you buy from the mass producers isn't as healthy as we once thought.

Red meats - ALL ground meats are washed with ammonia. (Yes, AMMONIA. The same shit that is used in windshield wiper fluids and PineSol!!)

Small steak cutlets are put back together with meat glues. It's a toxic glue but is within federal regulations once it's cooked, but still..glue..in your food. Gross.

Both sides red meat and poultry are ALL fed corn based diets to make the animals extra fat therefor increasing the fat content of all meats.

Poultry - Chickens specifically are highly engineered to keep up with demands. They go from chicks to fully grown in about 7 weeks fed heavily based corn grain and injected with hormones to increase their breast sizes. They get so big, so fast that they are unable to walk due to their bone structures not being able to support the sped up growth.

All of this stuff is passed to you as you eat it.

Find yourself a Whole Foods or Sprouts etc to find organic farm raised meats. You want to eat animals that were fed properly themselves on foods they were meant to eat (grass, proper grains/seeds etc) and not corn fed.


Poultry isn't quite as dense as red meat therefor your body doesn't need to create as much acid to break it down. You want to eat a portion about the size of your palm. Anything more than that will go to fat storage created by high acid levels trying to break down the excess. Your body knows what it can handle and what it can't. Once it's reached it digestion limit, it starts storing it.

It's important to prepare and cook chicken properly too. Completely trim it of all skin and fats. Use as little oil as possible. Preferrably EVOO or coconut oil.

[blownaltered]

I'm 6' and 236lbs as of this morning. I am losing weight, down 5lbs now. I'm not taking in as much protein as I would if I was trying to get big, I'm about 75 to 100 g of protein away from that. In reality I need to lose another 46lbs but I have done it this way before. Its not fast but I gain strength and start feeling out my shirts better while doing it this way. I'm hoping I get down to around 220 by April.

[Futwa]

Some really good information here. I did a 3 month transformation type workout where I focused on building muscle and shredding fat (think of an accelerated body builder type workout/diet) and I ended up right at 9% body fat. I'm 6ft and ended up weighing 186 when everything was said and done. It's tough to get started and even tougher to stick with it but having a support system, whether it be this forum, friends, or family really really helped push me through it.

Hey Steve I read your post on Cow milk and that is exactly why I don't think that stuff!

[Dominic Toretto]

Originally Posted by Futwa Some really good information here. I did a 3 month transformation type workout where I focused on building muscle and shredding fat (think of an accelerated body builder type workout/diet) and I ended up right at 9% body fat. I'm 6ft and ended up weighing 186 when everything was said and done. It's tough to get started and even tougher to stick with it but having a support system, whether it be this forum, friends, or family really really helped push me through it. Hey Steve I read your post on Cow milk and that is exactly why I don't think that stuff!

Can you give some details on your diet while building muscle/shredding?

-Alex

[Dominic Toretto]

Also Steve, how much is a gallon of almond milk?

-Alex

[Grandpa]

Originally Posted by Futwa Hey Steve I read your post on Cow milk and that is exactly why I don't think that stuff!

Yeah, I was really shocked when I found out about milk. It sucks too because I really loved drinking milk. I, like most everyone else, fell for the "milk does a body good" marketing campaigns. The food industry has some really disgusting secrets!

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto Also Steve, how much is a gallon of almond milk? -Alex

It's about $3 bucks or so. I buy it in the half gallon size and it last me awhile. I use it to cook with or an occasional small glass to drink. I usually have it every morning cooked in my oatmeal with organic flaxseed. YUM!

[blownaltered]

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT Yeah, I was really shocked when I found out about milk. It sucks too because I really loved drinking milk. I, like most everyone else, fell for the "milk does a body good" marketing campaigns. The food industry has some really disgusting secrets! It's about $3 bucks or so. I buy it in the half gallon size and it last me awhile. I use it to cook with or an occasional small glass to drink. I usually have it every morning cooked in my oatmeal with organic flaxseed. YUM!

Did you really just say yum to that. I would rather have scrambled egg whites with some Canadian bacon, that's yum.

[Dominic Toretto]

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT It's about $3 bucks or so. I buy it in the half gallon size and it last me awhile. I use it to cook with or an occasional small glass to drink. I usually have it every morning cooked in my oatmeal with organic flaxseed. YUM!

That's about the same as a gallon of milk. I'll start looking for that, thanks man!

What's interesting is that I had some inclination that foods are drinks were starting to have hormones in them due to how the younger population is developing so early these days. I know it's off topic but, I remember when I was in high school, girls looked like girls, now you can find some 15 year olds that look over 20.

-Alex

[Grandpa]

Originally Posted by blownaltered Did you really just say yum to that. I would rather have scrambled egg whites with some Canadian bacon, that's yum.

I'm still researching eggs. It's a highly controversial topic if they are good for you or not. I'm still on the fence. I eat eggs on occasion, but only organic eggs and the egg white itself. I'm working on lowering my LDL levels which is why the egg thing is "iffy" to me until I can decide on them.

And yes, oatmeal with flaxseed in it, add a banana while it's hot so it melts. YUMMMMM.

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto That's about the same as a gallon of milk. I'll start looking for that, thanks man! What's interesting is that I had some inclination that foods are drinks were starting to have hormones in them due to how the younger population is developing so early these days. I know it's off topic but, I remember when I was in high school, girls looked like girls, now you can find some 15 year olds that look over 20. -Alex

Exactly. It's also why we are seeing obesity at a much earlier age too.

Makes you think about that joking one liner " Damn girl, I know milk does a body good, but how much milk you drinking!?!"

Irony.

[blownaltered]

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT I'm still researching eggs. It's a highly controversial topic if they are good for you or not. I'm still on the fence. I eat eggs on occasion, but only organic eggs and the egg white itself. I'm working on lowering my LDL levels which is why the egg thing is "iffy" to me until I can decide on them. And yes, oatmeal with flaxseed in it, add a banana while it's hot so it melts. YUMMMMM. Exactly. It's also why we are seeing obesity at a much earlier age too. Makes you think about that joking one liner " Damn girl, I know milk does a body good, but how much milk you drinking!?!" Irony.

Lets not fucking blame obesity of these fat bastards on milk and hormones. Lets put the blame where it belongs, in their fucking parents for taking their fat asses to McDonalds every damn day. My wife sees it everyday where she works (pediatricians office), these parents feed their kids what ever they wants. They have kids come in that are 300lbs and 13 years old and they want the doctor to give them a handicapped pass so their kid doesn't have to walk as far and can take the elevator at certain places. The doctors tell them no and the parent goes to a new doctor to get it so their kid doesn't have to exercise. That is where the blame needs to be put not on fucking milk. Look how skinny my kids are and they eat all the shit that you are saying is horrible for you and is to blame. Sorry this one pisses me off, not Steve's comment it the fact these parents do this to their kids because they can't tell them no when the kid wants another fucking cup cake. Your kids fat give him a carrot.

[blownaltered]

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto That's about the same as a gallon of milk. I'll start looking for that, thanks man! What's interesting is that I had some inclination that foods are drinks were starting to have hormones in them due to how the younger population is developing so early these days. I know it's off topic but, I remember when I was in high school, girls looked like girls, now you can find some 15 year olds that look over 20. -Alex

Its wild, I see girls all the time that are fine as hell and then I feel like a dirty old man when I realize they are under 18. Then I realize I am a dirty old man and look again

[Dominic Toretto]

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT Exactly. It's also why we are seeing obesity at a much earlier age too. Makes you think about that joking one liner " Damn girl, I know milk does a body good, but how much milk you drinking!?!" Irony.

My ex and I joked about Aunt Gemima being the blame for childhood obesity. But I also attribute much of it to the activity of the child. Children have an insane amount of energy. My soon-to-be five year old daughter is like a damn chihuahua when she is in doors. And that is before she may have any sugar. She loves being out doors and will play her ass off. So will her ten year old sister. Both girls trim and active in cheerleading.

Originally Posted by blownaltered Its wild, I see girls all the time that are fine as hell and then I feel like a dirty old man when I realize they are under 18. Then I realize I am a dirty old man and look again

ROFL. It's really crazy to witness. I don't go to The Parks Mall anymore because of this.

-Alex

[JDMLOL]

Steve, you keep talking about these acid levels. Are high acid levels what contribute to colon cancer? I've heard eating lots of red meats increases the risk of it.

[Grandpa]

Originally Posted by JDMLOL Steve, you keep talking about these acid levels. Are high acid levels what contribute to colon cancer? I've heard eating lots of red meats increases the risk of it.

Acid levels contribute all ALL health issues. It's the basis of disease. Keeping your acidic levels low and controlled can reverse just about all health issues. High blood pressure, diabetes, chloresterol, pre-cancer cells etc.

Most health problems start from an unbalanced alkaline (PH) level. When our bodies take in foods that create a lot of acid in order to digest them, it throws everything off. Your body can only fight so many things at once so something somewhere has to suffer while the system is being heavily taxed.

Red meat is very, very hard on our bodies to digest. Your body knows it almost immediately that's why you get that feeling of wanting to lay down sleep after eating a big heavy meal. In order for your body to digest that very dense meat, the body needs to create more than the usual amount of acid in the system in order to break it down. Even still, it's difficult to pass through our bodies to be rid of it.

If you're one of those guys who needs to sit on the toilet for a long period of time in order to shit, you may seriously want to re-evaluate your diet due to the damage your doing to your digestive system (including your colon).