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**Grandpa** · 12-09-2013, 03:32 AM

Originally Posted by blownaltered

a 408 would be fun but i think it will be over kill for what i want. I never want 1000hp, i don't race often and when i do it's against steve for shits and giggles.

Originally Posted by blownaltered

the other thing is i don't want to do to the vert what i did to my 01gt. I don't want to make it where it isn't fun to drive. By that i don't want to have to worry every time i take it out something might break. That car was more fun at 450 than it ever was at 625, but i think that had a lot to do with my combo, blower selection and builder.

Originally Posted by blownaltered

this is a combo i saw on the corral. This looks like it could be fun. I'll sell off my blower if i go this route.

Dart ie built by rick hawver of rnh performance
9.3:1
afr 205's
shaft rockers
super vic intake with a 6061 elbow
120 injectors
e85
76 gtshp turbo (3" downpipe and journal bearings)
precision a/a intercooler (the 825hp one)
viper t56
kurgan tuned big stuff3

made 954 a@26psi but dialed the boost down to 23ish

lmao...

blownaltered · 12-09-2013, 03:59 AM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

lmao...

I know, I know. I did forget to attach the fact that combo is on a 363 not a 408. I'm also bored out of my fucking mind so I keep looking up shit. I'm just thinking a combo like that with less boost will put me where I want to be and if I ever wanted to turn it up I could.

**STROKD** · 12-09-2013, 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by blownaltered

I know, I know. I did forget to attach the fact that combo is on a 363 not a 408. I'm also bored out of my fucking mind so I keep looking up shit. I'm just thinking a combo like that with less boost will put me where I want to be and if I ever wanted to turn it up I could.

If that was a 408 with bigger heads, itd be that power on like 17 psi.

I plan to make that on race gas at about 12, but im turning big rpm and have 2 turbos similar in size.

blownaltered · 12-12-2013, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by STROKD

If that was a 408 with bigger heads, itd be that power on like 17 psi.

I plan to make that on race gas at about 12, but im turning big rpm and have 2 turbos similar in size.

Trust me I know where your coming from but I have no desire to try and compete with guys running 1000hp. That's not what I'm into. Once upon a time I would have spent money to try and get there but I just want a certain power level and I will be fine. I know the 408 will make it easier but I would have to change to much stuff that I don't want to have to change.

I plan to make a plan to build both and see where I end up price wise. Since huge horsepower isn't my end goal it will most likely come down to price. If the 408 is within a certain amount of the 347 then I will start purchasing parts for it but if it is a lot more then I will stick with the 347, make my 650 to 700 hp and be happy.

**STROKD** · 12-12-2013, 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by blownaltered

Trust me I know where your coming from but I have no desire to try and compete with guys running 1000hp. That's not what I'm into. Once upon a time I would have spent money to try and get there but I just want a certain power level and I will be fine. I know the 408 will make it easier but I would have to change to much stuff that I don't want to have to change.

I plan to make a plan to build both and see where I end up price wise. Since huge horsepower isn't my end goal it will most likely come down to price. If the 408 is within a certain amount of the 347 then I will start purchasing parts for it but if it is a lot more then I will stick with the 347, make my 650 to 700 hp and be happy.

It depends on what you plan to replace anyway. If you are changing the intake and headers, parts are same price for either motor... if all you need is a gd ac bracket, ill buy a new one and give you my old one. The biggest deal is the hood which you already have... if you dont want huge power, you can get a sportsman 9.5 deck block like i had for cheaper than a dart or boss block for a baby motor... the sportsman block will support 800 rw with no problems, 1000 rw with billet main caps.

I know you arent trying to make big power, but the 408 just makes more sense. If I could afford another build Id sell you my 351 shortstroke and go to a 427 in a heartbeat...

blownaltered · 12-13-2013, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by STROKD

It depends on what you plan to replace anyway. If you are changing the intake and headers, parts are same price for either motor... if all you need is a gd ac bracket, ill buy a new one and give you my old one. The biggest deal is the hood which you already have... if you dont want huge power, you can get a sportsman 9.5 deck block like i had for cheaper than a dart or boss block for a baby motor... the sportsman block will support 800 rw with no problems, 1000 rw with billet main caps.

I know you arent trying to make big power, but the 408 just makes more sense. If I could afford another build Id sell you my 351 shortstroke and go to a 427 in a heartbeat...

So I've been reading a bunch today about the 351 swap and there isn't as many different parts as I thought. My water pump, timing cover and other misc parts are still good. I would definitely need bigger heads and a different intake but I was already looking at that. I thought I was going to have to change my kmember but I don't so that makes a huge difference in what I can do.

**STROKD** · 12-13-2013, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by blownaltered

So I've been reading a bunch today about the 351 swap and there isn't as many different parts as I thought. My water pump, timing cover and other misc parts are still good. I would definitely need bigger heads and a different intake but I was already looking at that. I thought I was going to have to change my kmember but I don't so that makes a huge difference in what I can do.

Correct. You will need a new distributor and ac bracket, but heads, intake, headers etc you were upgrading anyway... nows the time to do it! That blower u have at 10 psi and pump should make 600 rw and have a ton of torque... dont know how much boost it will push but it will be easier to make good smooth power, and u can run a smaller cam so that makes it more driver friendly, and then u can run taller gears for better mpg too if u wanted...