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09-14-2013, 10:38 AM
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El Presidente
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brent, i look forward to your results. will you be going back to e85 too?
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2013 Ford Mustang 5.0 6M Brembo 3.73s
HPP TUNED HP-enough  4-0 vs Steve 
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09-14-2013, 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Yagermeister
re-rx7, you are correct but have you seen the Boss rods and pistons? They look and are nearly identical to a GTs except for the process in which they are made. They are also nearly the same weight so I don't think that argument can be used here...but I've been wrong before as my wife tells me 
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Id like to see the weights of both. With gd tuning I believe the bearing in the Coyote are up to the challenge however, detonation or crap timing would probally shorten their life alot. The CJ MAni looks awesom and Im looking forward to the results.
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09-14-2013, 10:52 AM
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I will be using e85 since it is a terrible fuel...with an intake that won't work...with valvetrain that can't handle it...with a gutted car...tuned by someone who can't tune (me)...with an auto because it is sooooo much easier than a stick...with drag radials that can't hook...with advancetrac turned on and limp mode enabled...all while running out of MAF.
Some of you guys must think I don't do research and just throw parts at the car. I have friends across the whole industry from when I used to have a race shop with a Dynojet up in Detroit. I read and talk to a lot of people before I buy or implement something. 36,000 miles and over 180 passes all while being the fastest stock converter bolton car in the country...I have no secrets and am willing to help everyone...just ask.
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09-14-2013, 10:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Yagermeister
I will be using e85 since it is a terrible fuel...with an intake that won't work...with valvetrain that can't handle it...with a gutted car...tuned by someone who can't tune (me)...with an auto because it is sooooo much easier than a stick...with drag radials that can't hook...with advancetrac turned on and limp mode enabled...all while running out of MAF.
Some of you guys must think I don't do research and just throw parts at the car. I have friends across the whole industry from when I used to have a race shop with a Dynojet up in Detroit. I read and talk to a lot of people before I buy or implement something. 36,000 miles and over 180 passes all while being the fastest stock converter bolton car in the country...I have no secrets and am willing to help everyone...just ask.
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Can I borrow some money?  LOL
Id like to know where the stock Ecu in the 5.0 reaches it limits. When I had an Evo it was around 600whp or so before the Ecu just could not control the amount of CFM accurate. That being said before going Map alot of us were geting 550 on the stock maf.
Last edited by re-rx7; 09-14-2013 at 11:16 AM.
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09-14-2013, 10:54 AM
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Scared to race Steve
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Oh and it's a lease FTW!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
I agree. A stick car shocks the tires MUCH harder and does it several times going down the track. With a big power stick car, the car is much more unsettled going down the track making it more of a challenge to ET well. A well running auto car is nothing more than just point and shoot. Which is great for a track car taking a lot of driver error out of the equation.
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09-14-2013, 10:55 AM
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Because its a lease I have money for car parts  Its just like renting a house
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09-14-2013, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by re-rx7
Id like to see the weights of both. With gd tuning I believe the bearing in the Coyote are up to the challenge however, detonation or crap timing would probally shorten their life alot. The CJ MAni looks awesom and Im looking forward to the results.
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The Boss and GT have the exact same forged crank and bearings
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09-14-2013, 10:58 AM
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Scared to race Steve
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Originally Posted by Yagermeister
Because its a lease I have money for car parts  Its just like renting a house
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Lol you're funny.
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
I agree. A stick car shocks the tires MUCH harder and does it several times going down the track. With a big power stick car, the car is much more unsettled going down the track making it more of a challenge to ET well. A well running auto car is nothing more than just point and shoot. Which is great for a track car taking a lot of driver error out of the equation.
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09-14-2013, 11:01 AM
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So are you
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09-14-2013, 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Yagermeister
The Boss and GT have the exact same forged crank and bearings 
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I classify the gt and the boss 302 as the coyote.
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09-14-2013, 11:11 AM
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So do I and that's why I have the thoughts I do regarding what my motor can and can't do
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09-14-2013, 11:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Yagermeister
So do I and that's why I have the thoughts I do regarding what my motor can and can't do
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Id like to know where the stock Ecu in the 5.0 reaches it limits. When I had an Evo it was around 600whp or so before the Ecu just could not control the amount of CFM accurate. That being said before going Map alot of us were geting 550 on the stock maf.
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09-14-2013, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by re-rx7
Id like to know where the stock Ecu in the 5.0 reaches it limits. When I had an Evo it was around 600whp or so before the Ecu just could not control the amount of CFM accurate. That being said before going Map alot of us were geting 550 on the stock maf.
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So far from what I have heard is that it has not been a limit of horsepower but rather of cracking the ecu code to release more rpm. I don't know the MAF limit. Kevin Dunn can speak more on that
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09-14-2013, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Yagermeister
So far from what I have heard is that it has not been a limit of horsepower but rather of cracking the ecu code to release more rpm
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So the tables allow for pretty much unlimited Cfm and rpm? Whats the limit of the stock maf?
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09-14-2013, 11:24 AM
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Senior Member
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No, rpm right now is capped around 7800 in a GT processor. With some secrets I have tested a special tune from a tuner that got my car to shift at 8100. The Boss processor should be able to...kdanner with his Boss engine GT can chat more on this topic...cfm not capped in ecu.
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