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08-30-2013, 10:34 PM
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I don't want a Whipple.
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08-30-2013, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by downtime!
I don't want a Whipple.
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........Kenne Bell sucks.....
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08-30-2013, 10:48 PM
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Scared to race Steve
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Originally Posted by downtime!
I don't want a Whipple.
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LOL you just want a smooth running car.
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08-30-2013, 11:37 PM
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I have been completely unimpressed with the KB's on the 5.0. Roush and Whipple have produced the best positive displacement results which indicate they are much more efficient in design.
Paxton is king of the centri.
I wouldn't mind having a Paxton on my car some day. Maybe when I am done with the N/A stuff.
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08-31-2013, 12:10 AM
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I want a Roush but I doubt it will ever happen. Remember when Beefcake and JPC were having that price war on the paxton. If that ever happens again I will be forced to purchase one.
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08-31-2013, 12:14 AM
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Scared to race Steve
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Yea when I get tired of this setup I have which won't be anytime soon. I'll sell as whole engine and all and get an aluminator and a 4.5l whipple.
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08-31-2013, 01:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT
Yea when I get tired of this setup I have which won't be anytime soon. I'll sell as whole engine and all and get an aluminator and a 4.5l whipple.
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That would be nuts and fun as hell! PD blowers are so much fun in a street car its ridiculous. Foof's 3.4 whipple is a blast and scary. I cant imagine a 4.5 on full tilt!
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08-31-2013, 02:26 AM
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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT
Yea when I get tired of this setup I have which won't be anytime soon. I'll sell as whole engine and all and get an aluminator and a 4.5l whipple.
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I didn't know they made a 4.5l. I thought it went 4.0, 5.0, then 8.3 being the biggest. Learn something new everyday here. @Justin Caprisun now with whipple flavor.
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09-01-2013, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT
Yea when I get tired of this setup I have which won't be anytime soon. I'll sell as whole engine and all and get an aluminator and a 4.5l whipple.
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How long do you think I'd be in the shop for that?  lol, couldn't help but ask that. Figured it'd spice up the convo
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08-31-2013, 02:08 AM
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Originally Posted by wbt
I have been completely unimpressed with the KB's on the 5.0. Roush and Whipple have produced the best positive displacement results which indicate they are much more efficient in design.
Paxton is king of the centri.
I wouldn't mind having a Paxton on my car some day. Maybe when I am done with the N/A stuff.
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Yeah, me too. Mine only runs high 10's at 8 psi on the baby 2.8LC and a shitty tune. And don't get me started about the shop owners car who installed mine. He has to get by with a measly 900 hp and 8.80's out of his. KB's suck.
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08-31-2013, 02:36 AM
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Originally Posted by wbt
I have been completely unimpressed with the KB's on the 5.0. Roush and Whipple have produced the best positive displacement results which indicate they are much more efficient in design.
Paxton is king of the centri.
I wouldn't mind having a Paxton on my car some day. Maybe when I am done with the N/A stuff.
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You forgot to put Magnuson in the list.
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08-31-2013, 02:51 AM
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Originally Posted by downtime!
Yeah, me too. Mine only runs high 10's at 8 psi on the baby 2.8LC and a shitty tune. And don't get me started about the shop owners car who installed mine. He has to get by with a measly 900 hp and 8.80's out of his. KB's suck.
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My N/A car runs 10.8's. Color me unimpressed.
Your shop owner isn't running 8's on a stock long block. Both the Paxton and Roush TVS have run 9's on stock long blocks. No KB kit on the 5.0 has come close to matching that.
Don't mistake what I said, my reference is for the 5.0 only. The KB's have proven themselves on the older 5.4 and 4.6 applications. Just not the case on the newer 5.0.
Originally Posted by merlinmol
You forgot to put Magnuson in the list.
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Agreed. Their horrible intake design is the limitation on that kit.
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08-31-2013, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by wbt
My N/A car runs 10.8's. Color me unimpressed.
Your shop owner isn't running 8's on a stock long block. Both the Paxton and Roush TVS have run 9's on stock long blocks. No KB kit on the 5.0 has come close to matching that.
Don't mistake what I said, my reference is for the 5.0 only. The KB's have proven themselves on the older 5.4 and 4.6 applications. Just not the case on the newer 5.0.
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Yes his MPH was pretty high and the tune was crap.
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08-31-2013, 11:06 AM
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Location: Keller
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Originally Posted by wbt
My N/A car runs 10.8's. Color me unimpressed.
Your shop owner isn't running 8's on a stock long block. Both the Paxton and Roush TVS have run 9's on stock long blocks. No KB kit on the 5.0 has come close to matching that.
Don't mistake what I said, my reference is for the 5.0 only. The KB's have proven themselves on the older 5.4 and 4.6 applications. Just not the case on the newer 5.0.
Agreed. Their horrible intake design is the limitation on that kit.
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It ran 131 mph, I just can't keep up with the shifts with my bad shoulder anymore. There's an auto swap in her future. And I never said that 900 came on the stock long block. I'm sure the KB could do it, but for every 1 KB you see out there, there are 100 Roush or Paxton cars. Much harder to get decent stats if no one is really running your product. Shelby seemed to like them enough for the Super Snake projects. But they are junk, I understand. And I'm actually less impressed with the KB stuff on the older cars. My kit, right out of the box, with no changes at all (stock pulley, factory throttle body, etc.) made enough power to go 10.80's at 131. Color me impressed. Wonder what she'll do when get around to turning it up? The bottom line is, everyone has an opinion, and that's great. It's exactly what's kept me doing this for the last 35 years. Not everyone has the same ideas, or does the same things. Keeps it interesting.
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08-31-2013, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by wbt
My N/A car runs 10.8's. Color me unimpressed.
Your shop owner isn't running 8's on a stock long block. Both the Paxton and Roush TVS have run 9's on stock long blocks. No KB kit on the 5.0 has come close to matching that.
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He went 9s on 18s with the stock motor and stock converter. Full weight premium. I believe he posted its gone 6.19 or 6.20's with the built motor still on 18s. He doesn't post on forums much.
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