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**Kadeng** · 11-21-2013, 12:07 PM

I was informed after some deep thought about selling my extended warranty back and buying a BAMA tune and a CAI after being told that BAMA will generally fix any issues(Drive terrain) if a customer from them... really on the edge with tuning my 3.7, i would appreciate feedback from everyone!

**Darkhelmet22** · 11-21-2013, 12:21 PM

They have some kind of warranty for cyl 8 problems but other than that i dont think they offer a warranty.

**DirtyD** · 11-21-2013, 12:31 PM

Bama offers a #8 warranty, only because their tunes are so generalized to fit the masses, that they are protecting themselves from any backlash if their tune blows up a customer car.

You have a 3.7. The #8 warranty doesn't apply to you because you don't have a #8 cylinder.

Honestly, IMO, get with Justin Starkey at VMP tuning. You will get a much better tune and be much happier with the end result. And you don't have to worry about something happening to your car.

**Dominic Toretto** · 11-21-2013, 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

Bama offers a #8 warranty, only because their tunes are so generalized to fit the masses, that they are protecting themselves from any backlash if their tune blows up a customer car.

You have a 3.7. The #8 warranty doesn't apply to you because you don't have a #8 cylinder.

Honestly, IMO, get with Justin Starkey at VMP tuning. You will get a much better tune and be much happier with the end result. And you don't have to worry about something happening to your car.

Wouldn't that still void the manufacturer warranty though since the dealership can tell that the computer has been tuned?

-Alex

**DirtyD** · 11-21-2013, 01:14 PM

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto

Wouldn't that still void the manufacturer warranty though since the dealership can tell that the computer has been tuned?

-Alex

And tuning the vehicle with Bama won't do the same?

Bama's warranty, or whatever you want to call it, is not a replacement for the factory warranty. The odds are still slim that something would happen under the Bama tune, but even then, if your car goes down, Bama themselves have to actually look over the car and determine that their tune was what caused the problem. Then they still have the discretion of deciding to "warrant" it or not.

Just get a better tune from someone that doesn't do things conservatively and be happier in the end.

**Dominic Toretto** · 11-21-2013, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

And tuning the vehicle with Bama won't do the same?

Haha, of course it would, just confirming that for the OP. Since he is considering cancelling the extended warranty may as well just expect the factory warranty to be cancelled as well.

-Alex

**Courtesy Flush** · 11-21-2013, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

And tuning the vehicle with Bama won't do the same?

Bama's warranty, or whatever you want to call it, is not a replacement for the factory warranty. The odds are still slim that something would happen under the Bama tune, but even then, if your car goes down, Bama themselves have to actually look over the car and determine that their tune was what caused the problem. Then they still have the discretion of deciding to "warrant" it or not.

Just get a better tune from someone that doesn't do things conservatively and be happier in the end.

I would think he would want a tune on the more conservative side since he is worried about warranty and car problems.

So you saying he should go with Bama now?

I never had good luck with my vmp tune, shifted great ran ok but i had better...then again my car is a freak of nature so its no wonder i had some issues.

**DirtyD** · 11-21-2013, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by Courtesy Flush

I would think he would want a tune on the more conservative side since he is worried about warranty and car problems.

So you saying he should go with Bama now?

I never had good luck with my vmp tune, shifted great ran ok but i had better...then again my car is a freak of nature so its no wonder i had some issues.

I would much rather have a tune based off what my car was doing than one that was key punched into a program to spit out PID values to match my mods.

**JDBishopArts** · 11-21-2013, 02:20 PM

I got a 6 year 100k warranty...part of it was part of the deal I worked with the car but the extended warranty also covers other parts of your car that don't have anything to do with the drivetrain and can be just as expensive to fix.

I'd keep it.

**Dominic Toretto** · 11-21-2013, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by JDBishopArts

I got a 6 year 100k warranty...part of it was part of the deal I worked with the car but the extended warranty also covers other parts of your car that don't have anything to do with the drivetrain and can be just as expensive to fix.

I'd keep it.

Well, moreso depends on the specific extended warranty he purchased. He could have received the same extended warranty as yourself or a different one. I have an extended warranty and mine is powertrain only. Best to contact the warranty company specifically, most will just put on your loan agreement documentation a "Gold" "Silver" or "Bronze" package and you won't know what it covers unless you actually ask. Gotta love the ambiguity.

-Alex

**cmanley99** · 11-21-2013, 10:04 PM

Don't forget that even with the Bama warranty for the #8 issue, thats only if your car is still in the 3yr/36k warranty...after that, bama doesn't cover it either. They will only cover it after ford denies repair from tuning.

**JDMLOL** · 11-22-2013, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

No 2 cars are alike. Just because 2 cars have the same commanded values, doesn't mean each one will run exactly like the other.

I would think differences would be very minimal. Besides gear ratios, wheels, trans. Other than tolerances of the parts which I would hope are small, what else could change how the engine responds to a tune?

**DirtyD** · 11-22-2013, 11:02 AM

Originally Posted by JDMLOL

I would think differences would be very minimal. Besides gear ratios, wheels, trans. Other than tolerances of the parts which I would hope are small, what else could change how the engine responds to a tune?

That would be something I wouldn't even try to answer. Because I'm not educated enough to answer it. That's just what I've been told by many people when I said the same thing that Alex said. Steve always made sure to correct me on that, so many he can be of more help to answering that question.

**JDMLOL** · 11-22-2013, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

That would be something I wouldn't even try to answer. Because I'm not educated enough to answer it. That's just what I've been told by many people when I said the same thing that Alex said. Steve always made sure to correct me on that, so many he can be of more help to answering that question.

Like Alex said. Every gt gets the same calibration from the factory. If undesirable results coming from generic tunes were that big of an issue they would all get custom tunes. I mean even carburetors had "factory" jet/screw settings for a particular engine. I wonder what Ford's defect rate with their tune is compared to __________ Performance shop's tune?

**DirtyD** · 11-22-2013, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by JDMLOL

Like Alex said. Every gt gets the same calibration from the factory. If undesirable results coming from generic tunes were that big of an issue they would all get custom tunes. I mean even carburetors had "factory" jet/screw settings for a particular engine. I wonder what Ford's defect rate with their tune is compared to __________ Performance shop's tune?

All the cars are built and toleranced within specs so that the tunes will work fine. When you start modifying the ECU and PCM calibrations, you don't know how close to the edge you are, depending on how your motor sits inside of the tolerance window...especially if you start modifying it.

All I'm saying is that I would rather someone actually take the time to look at, and diagnose my datalogs to see if there are any issues.

Just because the suit fits you, doesn't mean it's the best fit.