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Grandpa 10-07-2012 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 6744)
To me, it seems that SAE levels the playing field more.

From some of the posts here, there is a 3.31 car exactly like mine making the same HP and TQ than mine with 3.55s does in STD

1) Gearing doesn't make horsepower.

2) There is very little difference between 3.31 and 3.55 gears.

DirtyD 10-07-2012 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve (Post 6746)
1) Gearing doesn't make horsepower.

2) There is very little difference between 3.31 and 3.55 gears.

I know this. Bit gearing changes how well the power/torque from the motor is transferred to the ground, this giving a higher reading. It accounts for drivetrain lose. That's why a weak car with 4.10a can hook like hell, but still fall on its face up top.

Give me some credit, Steve. :p

Grandpa 10-07-2012 10:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 6747)
I know this. Bit gearing changes how well the power/torque from the motor is transferred to the ground, this giving a higher reading. It accounts for drivetrain lose. That's why a weak car with 4.10a can hook like hell, but still fall on its face up top.

Give me some credit, Steve. :p

Gearing simply just moves the powerband around. If a car doesn't make enough horsepower to use a steep gear, it's going to fall on it's face like you are saying, however it's not going to manipulate a dyno as you think it will.

As for 3.31 vs 3.55, there is almost no difference between the two gears at all. I've got a 3.31 car, you and I could race and we'd be shifting at the same times providing traction is not an issue. :)

Toby 10-07-2012 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 6744)
To me, it seems that SAE levels the playing field more.

From some of the posts here, there is a 3.31 car exactly like mine making the same HP and TQ than mine with 3.55s does in STD

hp can vary from dyno to dyno and day to day. Some cars are just freaks and some just simply dont make good power.. I have seen the new 5.0's make as low as 310 hp and as high as 405 hp to the tires bone stock!!

The only way to get a 100% true hp number is to pull the motor and measure hp at the crank. There are so many things that can affect hp numbers...

XMPT03 10-08-2012 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by jayman33 (Post 6731)
You can do better!! :)


Just need bigger injectors.

WOMACK03 10-08-2012 12:10 PM

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e8...hippleDyno.jpg
19lbs. 93oct.

Emwun Garand 10-08-2012 07:51 PM

Womack, you really need to have your tuner fatten up the fuel from 3.5 to 5k or you're going to have some problems

Emwun Garand 10-08-2012 07:53 PM

http://i.imgur.com/Fs3MN.jpg

Grandpa 10-08-2012 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emwun Garand (Post 6799)
Womack, you really need to have your tuner fatten up the fuel from 3.5 to 5k or you're going to have some problems

That car has probably been driven 100 miles in the last 2 years. It just sits. :(

04sleeper 10-08-2012 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emwun Garand (Post 6799)
Womack, you really need to have your tuner fatten up the fuel from 3.5 to 5k or you're going to have some problems

I can fix that. :)

Courtesy Flush 10-08-2012 08:59 PM

My contribution.

11 SG GT 6M Steeda Intake, o/r x kooks catback TSM tune.
http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6048/6...899f7bfd_z.jpg
STD #'s were 436HP 411TQ for comparison purposes.

It got sold for an auto.
latest dyno on current car with stock #'s for comparision
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8151/7...83dbd4b3_z.jpg
cats are off now and im running a different tune.

Grandpa 10-08-2012 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by 04sleeper (Post 6802)
I can fix that. :)

Nice! He has always been a little leary of that tune i think.

WOMACK03 10-09-2012 08:56 AM

Kevin, I will get with you after I get that beast up and running. It has that weird fuel pressure drop between shifts, that we will need to tune out. I can't remember what you told me we needed to do, or what tuning products I need to get.
I'm just waiting for Holly to finish nursing school, then i'm back in the game.

Grandpa 10-09-2012 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WOMACK03 (Post 6859)
Kevin, I will get with you after I get that beast up and running. It has that weird fuel pressure drop between shifts, that we will need to tune out. I can't remember what you told me we needed to do, or what tuning products I need to get.
I'm just waiting for Holly to finish nursing school, then i'm back in the game.

Yeahhhhh buddy. It's probably the PPRV and needs a real tune from Kevin. :)

BLK2012GT 10-09-2012 05:43 PM

Can't wait to post my new numbers here in a couple of weeks.


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