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**Grandpa** · 06-06-2013, 02:35 PM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

With the humidity and heat this morning, your STD will be around 380/370 +/- 5 for both

SAE numbers will be corrected to around 375/365 +/- 5

My dyno numbers in my sig were only GT500 ABs and 3.55s. You should be pretty damn close to what I made.

What is with your obsession with the settings on the numbers? I don't get it. The only numbers that matter are on the track. Dyno numbers do not equate performance numbers, it's simply peak numbers. The dyno is only a tool to tune a car not measure performance. I don't get this younger generations obsession with peak numbers.

**DirtyD** · 06-06-2013, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by Oxford14Stang

Well the results are in. 358hp, 338tq with 74 degrees outside And 70% humidity -- must add that's just with 3.55 gears and magna flow axle back .. CAI & Tune will arrive and be put on the car tomorrow.

Dang, those are almost numbers from an Auto. Did they give you a print out of the dyno graph? Wonder what type of dyno it is.

Originally Posted by Steve

What is with your obsession with the settings on the numbers? I don't get it. The only numbers that matter are on the track. Dyno numbers do not equate performance numbers, it's simply peak numbers. The dyno is only a tool to tune a car not measure performance. I don't get this younger generations obsession with peak numbers.

All I did was just give him an estimate in both corrected forms. That's all. He asked about PEAK numbers, I answered his question. I know the track is where you put those numbers to the test, troll.

I don't get why you get so damn uptight about it.

**Grandpa** · 06-06-2013, 03:11 PM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

Dang, those are almost numbers from an Auto. Did they give you a print out of the dyno graph? Wonder what type of dyno it is.

All I did was just give him an estimate in both corrected forms. That's all. He asked about PEAK numbers, I answered his question. I know the track is where you put those numbers to the test, troll.

I don't get why you get so damn uptight about it.

I'm not uptight about it, you arguement just doesn't make any sense. Grilling someone over STD or SAE doesn't really matter. Depending on the air, temp, humidity or whatever else those numbers are nullified on any given day. Manual or auto, big convertor/small convertor etc. There is so many ways that can be manipulated it's crazy.

What matters is performance and having all the parts in a set up that work together in a efficient manner. A car make numbers to the moon, but it doesn't use them with the proper powerband, gearing etc for how it's intended on being used, then the numbers are useless.

How many times have you seen a car make really low numbers, but down some crazy ET times at the track? It's because the combo works together.

The same can be said for some high number dyno queens - why is it they can spin the rollers to a crazy number, but yet they get out on the street and get drug dirty by cars making much less? Because the setup doesn't work.

That is the point I'm making to you. The ONLY numbers that matter on a dyno is the A/F while tuning.

**DirtyD** · 06-06-2013, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by Steve

I'm not uptight about it, you arguement just doesn't make any sense. Grilling someone over STD or SAE doesn't really matter. Depending on the air, temp, humidity or whatever else those numbers are nullified on any given day. Manual or auto, big convertor/small convertor etc. There is so many ways that can be manipulated it's crazy.

What matters is performance and having all the parts in a set up that work together in a efficient manner. A car make numbers to the moon, but it doesn't use them with the proper powerband, gearing etc for how it's intended on being used, then the numbers are useless.

How many times have you seen a car make really low numbers, but down some crazy ET times at the track? It's because the combo works together.

The same can be said for some high number dyno queens - why is it they can spin the rollers to a crazy number, but yet they get out on the street and get drug dirty by cars making much less? Because the setup doesn't work.

That is the point I'm making to you. The ONLY numbers that matter on a dyno is the A/F while tuning.

Dude, what fucking argument are you talking about? I simple typed my guesses to his dyno numbers. Who gives a flying shit if I put down both STD and SAE? I wasn't grilling anyone. I'm over that fucking shit from the other day. But obvious you aren't because you bring it up every god damn chance you get. It's getting really fucking old.

**Grandpa** · 06-06-2013, 03:37 PM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

Dude, what fucking argument are you talking about? I simple typed my guesses to his dyno numbers. Who gives a flying shit if I put down both STD and SAE? I wasn't grilling anyone. I'm over that fucking shit from the other day. But obvious you aren't because you bring it up every god damn chance you get. It's getting really fucking old.

Dude, relax. Holy kneejerk reaction, Batman. lol.

**White_lightning** · 06-06-2013, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by Steve

What is with your obsession with the settings on the numbers? I don't get it. The only numbers that matter are on the track. Dyno numbers do not equate performance numbers, it's simply peak numbers. The dyno is only a tool to tune a car not measure performance. I don't get this younger generations obsession with peak numbers.

I agree and disagree with you. a dyno is like you said a Tool...

I guess its the bench racer in me, but you can take a car making 900 rwhp with a very peaky power band and a car with 900 rwhp with a HUGE powerband and the one car will walk away from the other. That's why normally a 600 rwhp nitrous car will pull on a 600 rwhp Blower car. Its all in the power band.

since I like to see the delta.. I normally dyno my car at the same place.. and use SAE numbers because they are normally Lower.. most of the guys using STD numbers are to over inflate their numbers... I couldn't give a fuck about setting a record.. I want to know where my powerband starts and stops.

**Grandpa** · 06-06-2013, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by White_lightning

I agree and disagree with you. a dyno is like you said a Tool...

I guess its the bench racer in me, but you can take a car making 900 rwhp with a very peaky power band and a car with 900 rwhp with a HUGE powerband and the one car will walk away from the other. That's why normally a 600 rwhp nitrous car will pull on a 600 rwhp Blower car. Its all in the power band.

since I like to see the delta.. I normally dyno my car at the same place.. and use SAE numbers because they are normally Lower.. most of the guys using STD numbers are to over inflate their numbers... I couldn't give a fuck about setting a record.. I want to know where my powerband starts and stops.

I agree. The area under the curve will tell you how your car is going to pull an where to shift.

**White_lightning** · 06-06-2013, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by Steve

I agree. The area under the curve will tell you how your car is going to pull an where to shift.

but again.. its a tool.. I don't brag about dyno numbers.. hell I don't even like telling ppl the numbers.. but for example.. I dyno'ed all my blower combos on the same dyno. I have all my dyno files, so I could overlay them and see the exact power band difference between the old blower and the new one.

**Grandpa** · 06-06-2013, 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by White_lightning

but again.. its a tool.. I don't brag about dyno numbers.. hell I don't even like telling ppl the numbers.. but for example.. I dyno'ed all my blower combos on the same dyno. I have all my dyno files, so I could overlay them and see the exact power band difference between the old blower and the new one.

Yup, I agree completely. Doing so allows you to tweak your set up and tune in a way that helps dialing in your car the correct way. Dyno numbers mean squat.

**Oxford14Stang** · 06-06-2013, 06:35 PM

Alright guys... newbie question. I've got no idea what the best way to post a video on here would be. I'm thinking upload it to my youtube channel and post link? Or is there a way that I can post it on here directly from my computer? For now, I'll post dyno pics of the car strapped and graph. Thanks for any help/pointers.

**Grandpa** · 06-06-2013, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by Oxford14Stang

Alright guys... newbie question. I've got no idea what the best way to post a video on here would be. I'm thinking upload it to my youtube channel and post link? Or is there a way that I can post it on here directly from my computer? For now, I'll post dyno pics of the car strapped and graph. Thanks for any help/pointers.

Upload it on Youtube. Then use the Youtube tab above the box where you reply like so [YT] [ /YT].

**Oxford14Stang** · 06-06-2013, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by Steve

Upload it on Youtube. Then use the Youtube tab above the box where you reply like so [YT] [ /YT].

Okay, will that tab be on youtube next to the reply there, or the tab will be here on this site next to our reply tab? because I can't find it :-/

**Oxford14Stang** · 06-06-2013, 06:42 PM

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**Oxford14Stang** · 06-06-2013, 06:59 PM

Yes, that's what I figured it'd be. Don't know much about dynos.. this was my first time dynoing my car/any car. Just learning that's all but as it was mentioned before the SAE numbers would of been lower, and the STD numbers read high. I'm getting the hang of it.

**Oxford14Stang** · 06-06-2013, 07:05 PM

hmm.. give me a second to figure out how to get this video to post. If all else fails since I can't figure out this whole youtube tab thing I'll just post a link. I did however find the youtube tab, just no luck getting it to post the video on here.. just shows a link.