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BLK2012GT 12-14-2012 07:33 PM

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Grandpa 12-14-2012 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 12441)
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Ok........and?

blownaltered 12-14-2012 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 12441)
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That explains a lot, I'm glad you showed us that

BLK2012GT 12-14-2012 08:00 PM

Yeah I know it did. Shit won't let me upload the pics. Well I'm at dinner so I'll do it when I get home.

Midnight11 12-14-2012 08:01 PM

Ok and?

BLK2012GT 12-14-2012 08:13 PM

Ok.......and? Hey nick have you put your dick deposit down for that tune at TS?

04sleeper 12-14-2012 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by blownaltered (Post 12447)
That explains a lot, I'm glad you showed us that

http://www.lolroflmao.com/wp-content...t-see-shit.jpg

BLK2012GT 12-14-2012 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 04sleeper (Post 12453)

Lol

Midnight11 12-14-2012 09:35 PM

:snoopfacepalm:

Grandpa 12-14-2012 09:54 PM

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Grandpa 12-14-2012 09:57 PM

Jeff's last dyno pull................


































http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/7794/diesell.jpg

TrueStreetTim 12-15-2012 12:20 PM

Ruth....less. :mf_pcwhack:

BLK2012GT 12-15-2012 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueStreetTim (Post 12500)
Ruth....less. :mf_pcwhack:

Eh, they're jealous that their cars won't be as fast as mine.

blownaltered 12-15-2012 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 12502)
Eh, they're jealous that their cars won't be as fast as mine.

The faster the car the more shit you break, I'll stay slow.

BLK2012GT 12-15-2012 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by blownaltered (Post 12503)
The faster the car the more shit you break, I'll stay slow.

True, unless its built correctly for the speed.

Phuck Phace 12-15-2012 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 12448)
Yeah I know it did. Shit won't let me upload the pics. Well I'm at dinner so I'll do it when I get home.

LMAO, I forgot about that.

Grandpa 12-15-2012 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by blownaltered (Post 12503)
The faster the car the more shit you break, I'll stay slow.

Amen to that! You can see where going fast got him. His car is in the shop most of the time along with his money. lol.

BLK2012GT 12-15-2012 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve (Post 12519)
Amen to that! You can see where going fast got him. His car is in the shop most of the time along with his money. lol.

Please my car has been in the shop to get go fast goodies. This is the first problem I've had.

downtime! 12-15-2012 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 12552)
Please my car has been in the shop to get go fast goodies. This is the first problem I've had.

Pretty serious problem though, gotta admit. I beat mine mercilessly, 30k miles, hundreds of passes, not even a hiccup. Did they come up with a reason for the failure?

BLK2012GT 12-15-2012 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by downtime! (Post 12556)
Pretty serious problem though, gotta admit. I beat mine mercilessly, 30k miles, hundreds of passes, not even a hiccup. Did they come up with a reason for the failure?

Nope.

downtime! 12-15-2012 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 12597)
Nope.

So the pic that's on Facebook with the bent con-rod, that's the culprit? And they haven't figured out why it bent? Any damage to the top of the piston?

Toby 12-15-2012 11:42 PM

The only problem we found was the bent rod. Piston tops look perfect, valves are perfect not even the slightest hint of detonation, or anything lean related. We have spoken to our local ford dealer, they have informed us that they have seen a hand full of the new 5.0 mustangs come in with a locked up motor that was a result of a bent rod. Seems to becoming a common thing with these cars. It will come back better then ever!

DirtyD 12-15-2012 11:48 PM

Maybe some motors are getting weak rods due to tolerances in the material?

Toby 12-15-2012 11:50 PM

Not sure, there is also another common thing, most all of them that have this problem, have around 5k miles....

Midnight11 12-15-2012 11:51 PM

i know you said the pistons are good but can u tell which one he has

I now have each piston revision for the Coyote GT.

The late '12 piston appears to be the same as the 11-12 piston except it has the phosphate coating. The '13 piston has the coating, the extra oil drain back passages, and the gas groove in the second ring land.

From top to bottom: 11-12 piston (03/22/2010-12/08/2011)....Late '12 piston (12/08/2011-02/27/2012)....'13 piston (02/27/2012-current):


11-12 piston:
http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/d...3/1e01e96c.jpg

late 12
http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/d...3/8609e323.jpg

13
http://i531.photobucket.com/albums/d...3/1740e2e4.jpg

DirtyD 12-16-2012 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Toby (Post 12616)
Not sure, there is also another common thing, most all of them that have this problem, have around 5k miles....

Maybe it's the fact the cars weren't broken in properly? They say that break in is first 5k or so...

downtime! 12-16-2012 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Toby (Post 12608)
The only problem we found was the bent rod. Piston tops look perfect, valves are perfect not even the slightest hint of detonation, or anything lean related. We have spoken to our local ford dealer, they have informed us that they have seen a hand full of the new 5.0 mustangs come in with a locked up motor that was a result of a bent rod. Seems to becoming a common thing with these cars. It will come back better then ever!

Assembly line variances, call it what you will (is it a "Friday" engine or a "Monday" engine), still a bit scary to think it can, and does happen. This makes two that I know of for sure now. If it is indeed becoming a known issue, maybe this will finally prompt Ford into giving us a "real" set of con-rods.

downtime! 12-16-2012 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 12622)
Maybe it's the fact the cars weren't broken in properly? They say that break in is first 5k or so...

I had the tune loaded, and mine at the track, on Day 2. I think it's more luck of the draw than anything else. Ford puts together a few hundred of these things a day, shit happens. Not nearly as much as it used to, but it still happens. That's why we get warranties.

Toby 12-16-2012 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 12622)
Maybe it's the fact the cars weren't broken in properly? They say that break in is first 5k or so...

An engine is an engine. They all have gaskets, rings, bearings, etc. How do you think guys with race cars break their engines in? they have no way of putting 5k miles on it. Some engines wont even last 500 miles before the rods need replacing. I think its more a shitty luck of the draw. IMO

DirtyD 12-16-2012 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Toby (Post 12625)
An engine is an engine. They all have gaskets, rings, bearings, etc. How do you think guys with race cars break their engines in? they have no way of putting 5k miles on it. Some engines wont even last 500 miles before the rods need replacing. I think its more a shitty luck of the draw. IMO

That was more of a thinking out loud post.

I will agree with you on the race cars though. Takes A LOT of quarter mile passes to get to 5k. Lol

46Tbird 12-16-2012 10:52 AM

A bent rod isn't what caused the engine to lock up.

Something caused the bent rod in the first place. A locked up rod bearing will do it, hydrolock will do it, sometimes too many RPM can do it (rare). How does the rod bearing look?

Toby 12-16-2012 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 46Tbird (Post 12636)
A bent rod isn't what caused the engine to lock up.

Something caused the bent rod in the first place. A locked up rod bearing will do it, hydrolock will do it, sometimes too many RPM can do it (rare). How does the rod bearing look?

The bearing looked new not even the slightest sign of wear. The rod was bent in a way that it was wedges against the counter weight on the crank and twisted so that the crank could not turn. The car was running perfectly fine, pulled it on the dyno, swapped the injectors out strapped it down and when we tried to start it, it rotated maybe once then a clunk and nothing after that.

Grandpa 12-16-2012 11:31 AM

How do i find out the build date of my car?

Luke 12-16-2012 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve (Post 12641)
How do i find out the build date of my car?

Is it not on your door jamb?

Grandpa 12-16-2012 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke (Post 12656)
Is it not on your door jamb?

No idea. Havent looked.

BLK2012GT 12-16-2012 02:41 PM

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Midnight11 12-16-2012 02:43 PM

Thanks to nick for figuring it out for you

BLK2012GT 12-17-2012 06:43 PM

If you guys want a good and funny read here you go. Steve starting shit over at svtperformance. Lol jk Steve I know those guys don't have a clue.

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...0-miles-3.html

BLK2012GT 12-17-2012 06:52 PM

Plus I wonder if Clint will chime in on that thread. Lol

Grandpa 12-17-2012 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 12786)
If you guys want a good and funny read here you go. Steve starting shit over at svtperformance. Lol jk Steve I know those guys don't have a clue.

http://www.svtperformance.com/forums...0-miles-3.html

If they knew they didn't have a clue of a clue that would be one thing. It's amazing some of those guys even know how to turn the key on their cars.


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