Jeff vs David

[Grandpa]

Well, looks like both cars will finally be out soon. Maybe we can catch David in a rare sober moment long enough for a race with Jeff.

So, both cars on kill -


Who wins?

Discuss.

[BLK2012GT]

At the track where it counts or the hwy? At the track me on the hwy David. End of story.

[Phuck Phace]

Mi gusto Mexico.

[Grandpa]

Can both of you hit fourth gear?

[BLK2012GT]

Pretty damn sure. MGW ftw

[Grandpa]

At the track where it counts or the hwy? At the track me on the hwy David. End of story.

How did you figure that?

[BLK2012GT]

How did you figure that?

He is top end car boost has to build my car will be insitant 500 rwhp plus so I'll get a good jump. But from a roll where he is in the boost area he will win.

[Grandpa]

He is top end car boost has to build my car will be insitant 500 rwhp plus so I'll get a good jump. But from a roll where he is in the boost area he will win.

You still need to get all of that to hook without breaking anything. If you break, it still counts as a loss. Everything counts around here!

Plus David is on rubberband tires slammed on his nuts. There is no way that thing hooks on kill...ever.

[BLK2012GT]

You still need to get all of that to hook without breaking anything. If you break, it still counts as a loss. Everything counts around here!

Plus David is on rubberband tires slammed on his nuts. There is no way that thing hooks on kill...ever.

Everyone is talking about me breaking shit but no one is saying that to David and his car will make more power then me most of the time.

[Grandpa]

Everyone is talking about me breaking shit but no one is saying that to David and his car will make more power then me most of the time.

His car spins like Obama being asked for his birth certificate. It's hard to break when it doesn't hook. He's pretty much relying on you to :

a) screw up

b) outrun you out the top

c) break

d) Mexico where you have no chance of hooking either. lol.

[Phuck Phace]

Everyone is talking about me breaking shit but no one is saying that to David and his car will make more power then me most of the time.

I'm not trying to "dead hook" anywhere until I can afford a new trans.

[BLK2012GT]

Then what's the point of this thread?

[Phuck Phace]

I'm still going to race.

[Grandpa]

Then what's the point of this thread?

Fun racing smack talk.


I guess we could sit here and talk about eating dicks instead.

[Phuck Phace]

Lol

[BLK2012GT]

Can't do that. David post on Facebook he's on a no dick diet.

[Grandpa]

Clearly everything on Facebook is true.

[Grandpa]

From a roll - anything lower than 60mph David murders Jeff by a zipcode.

[Selcouth]

Fun racing smack talk.



When are you racing?

[BLK2012GT]

When are you racing?

He already race and can't seem to find fourth.

[Grandpa]

When are you racing?

Anytime you want J. :bleh:

[Grandpa]

He already race and can't seem to find fourth.

I don't need it for his shitboxes.

[BLK2012GT]

From a roll - anything lower than 60mph David murders Jeff by a zipcode.

Yeah I don't know about beating me that much.

[TrueStreetMotorSports.com]

This makes for a interesting Bench Race........

Jeffs Nitrous will happen on the hit. Should have a hell of a jump on most anything he races. Most will all be playing chase

Davids car being a centrifugal blower car it should need RPMS to get it into the power band. But with us doing a boost controller and spinning the blower much faster and regulate boost with the controller. Davids car should be in its power band much quicker than other centrifugal cars.

This race with both drivers being equal (I don't know who is the best driver) there should not be more than 2-3 cars between them in any race they have (bottle pressure needs to be 950lb Jeff lol)

Im looking forward to the videos!!!

[Grandpa]

After this thread this will be Jeff and Clint's next convo -


_nYXkKN1k7M

[BLK2012GT]

After this thread this will be Jeff and Clint's next convo -


_nYXkKN1k7M

And you failed at posting the link. And I've already talk to clint about what my plans in the future will be in the next 2-3 years. But hell I might enjoy beating the boooooost cars at the track NA that I might stay like that for good and maybe a nice decent size stroker kit will come out by then.

[Selcouth]

I don't need it for his shitboxes.

So you are giving me the hit?

[Midnight11]

I like how Steve talks about how low David's setup is but they have the same springs, tire size etc lol

[Toby]

I like how Steve talks about how low David's setup is but they have the same springs, tire size etc lol

If I recall Jeff has the same springs too...

Given equal drivers, the blower car will rape the nitrous car by bus lengths.

[BLK2012GT]

If I recall Jeff has the same springs too...

Given equal drivers, the blower car will rape the nitrous car by bus lengths.

And now Tim moved up a spot on you on people I like at TS.

[BLK2012GT]

And I was going to share some deer meat with you.

[Phuck Phace]

This is funny.

[BLK2012GT]

This is funny.

It will be when I spank dat ass.

[Phuck Phace]

It will be when I spank dat ass.

It's on now son.

[Toby]

And now Tim moved up a spot on you on people I like at TS.

Now I can change the out come.... Remember who is building both of these cars.... :-)

[Grandpa]

So you are giving me the hit?


Yes, right in the nuts.

I like how Steve talks about how low David's setup is but they have the same springs, tire size etc lol

Davids car is lower than mine. We dont have the same springs. He has 2010 Sportlines which are a lil lower. I have the correct springs for a 2012.

[BLK2012GT]

Now I can change the out come.... Remember who is building both of these cars.... :-)

Get my car done tomorrow and you'll move ahead of Tim again.:big_banana_Dance:

[Midnight11]

Yes, right in the nuts.



Davids car is lower than mine. We dont have the same springs. He has 2010 Sportlines which are a lil lower. I have the correct springs for a 2012.

only the front is lower...

[Toby]

Get my car done tomorrow and you'll move ahead of Tim again.:big_banana_Dance:

cough cough 400 hp shot cough cough

[BLK2012GT]

cough cough 400 hp shot cough cough

Let's not get carried away now. I do want to drive my car for a bit. Lol

[Grandpa]

only the front is lower...

I dont think so bro. I can barely fit one finger in his back fenderwell and i can easily get two on mine. We should measure both cars to find out for sure.

[BLK2012GT]

Who gives a shit? I thought this is about me and David?

[STROKD]

lol great shit talking thread. I dont know either driver, but the blower car should win... key word "should" It depends on a few factors, two of which being the power curve and how fast he can shift. dropping off boost or out of the power band is bad mkay.

[BLK2012GT]

lol great shit talking thread. I dont know either driver, but the blower car should win... key word "should" It depends on a few factors, two of which being the power curve and how fast he can shift. dropping off boost or out of the power band is bad mkay.

Even at the track?

[STROKD]

Even at the track?

500rw vs 700+? um, seriously?

[BLK2012GT]

500rw vs 700+? um, seriously?

Um I have a direct port fogger kit with either a 200 or 300 shot on top of that 500 rwhp plus, soooo.........

[STROKD]

Um I have a direct port fogger kit with either a 200 or 300 shot, soooo.........

you were talking about raping boosted cars on motor... so thats what I figured you were planning.

If you dont have a progressive, and a LOT of tire, you will get raped with the nitrous... it's going to hit so hard, shock the tires and away you go towards the wall... David's car will be much easier to drive since it will ramp in as the car moves forward... Ive had both setups, the blower car is easier to pedal...

[BLK2012GT]

you were talking about raping boosted cars on motor... so thats what I figured you were planning.

If you dont have a progressive, and a LOT of tire, you will get raped with the nitrous... it's going to hit so hard, shock the tires and away you go towards the wall... David's car will be much easier to drive since it will ramp in as the car moves forward... Ive had both setups, the blower car is easier to pedal...

Yes I have a progressive on the car

[BLK2012GT]

When Steve made this thread about David and I it's pretty much run what you got kinda deal.

[Phuck Phace]

I'm the fastest.

[BLK2012GT]

No I am the gayest.

[Phuck Phace]

no i am the gayest.

qft

[re-rx7]

you were talking about raping boosted cars on motor... so thats what I figured you were planning.

If you dont have a progressive, and a LOT of tire, you will get raped with the nitrous... it's going to hit so hard, shock the tires and away you go towards the wall... David's car will be much easier to drive since it will ramp in as the car moves forward... Ive had both setups, the blower car is easier to pedal...

Nitrous>blower.:Moon:

[Luke]

My money would be on the nitrous once it's dialed in. Y'all should post up some side by side mods for each car.

[Grandpa]

Boost>nitrous

Anyone who thinks otherwise has never had a fast street car of their own before. The only thing better than boost = boost+nitrous.

[re-rx7]

I've had plenty of fast cars. Always boosted. However nitrous is the way to go.

[pohnjarker]

nitrous is fun for a couple of hours until you run out

i'll take boost over nitrous any day.

[Grandpa]

nitrous is fun for a couple of hours until you run out

i'll take boost over nitrous any day.

Agreed. Worrying about bottle pressure,temps and having to make extra trips for refills gets old.

[BeastStang1302]

Setup another gtg at the track and let them settle this. There is a fast Friday next weekend, day before the all mopar show, should be alot of challengers and chargers to beat up on that Friday night too

[Phuck Phace]

Setup another gtg at the track and let them settle this. There is a fast Friday next weekend, day before the all mopar show, should be alot of challengers and chargers to beat up on that Friday night too

One run and get booted? Haven't invested in a cage yet.

[Grandpa]

One run and get booted? Haven't invested in a cage yet.

LOL, you won't run a number that will get you booted on a street prep night.

[Dark Pony]

You may not get booted. Tire spin = High ET's lol

[Luke]

Boost>nitrous

Anyone who thinks otherwise has never had a fast street car of their own before. The only thing better than boost = boost+nitrous.

Steve, do you actually believe all of the shit that you say? A lot of times I agree with your comments, you seem to be well informed about certain things. Other times I think your opinion and what you like clouds the facts in your head. We're talking about this situation and the setups that these two have, not what we prefer on our own cars.

[BLK2012GT]

I drive fast.

[Midnight11]

i wanna go fast

[BLK2012GT]

i wanna go fast

You're faster then Steve.

[Grandpa]

Steve, do you actually believe all of the shit that you say? A lot of times I agree with your comments, you seem to be well informed about certain things. Other times I think your opinion and what you like clouds the facts in your head. We're talking about this situation and the setups that these two have, not what we prefer on our own cars.

I'm speaking from my own experiences of having owned both nitroused and blown cars. What's with being a rude asshat? Kinda uncalled for. If you have counter points, make them, but don't be an asshole calling me out without an example or experience of your own on the matter.

[Grandpa]

You're faster then Steve.

That has yet to be proven. All that was proven is that I drug his ass everytime to the 1000ft mark and I missed fourth everytime. All that proved is I can't hit fourth. lol.

[Luke]

I'm speaking from my own experiences of having owned both nitroused and blown cars. What's with being a rude asshat? Kinda uncalled for. If you have counter points, make them, but don't be an asshole calling me out without an example or experience of your own on the matter.

It may just be the fact that I'm reading posts and we're not talking in person, you just come across on a lot of your posts like you are never wrong and don't like the criticism. I've had a couple blower cars and a couple nitrous cars as well, I would hands down choose a supercharger/turbo for a DD over nitrous, refilling sucks. BUT, this was about David and Jeff's race... I'd give the edge to Jeff. And sorry guys, didn't really mean to get it off topic.

[Grandpa]

It may just be the fact that I'm reading posts and we're not talking in person, you just come across on a lot of your posts like you are never wrong and don't like the criticism. I've had a couple blower cars and a couple nitrous cars as well, I would hands down choose a supercharger/turbo for a DD over nitrous, refilling sucks. BUT, this was about David and Jeff's race... I'd give the edge to Jeff. And sorry guys, didn't really mean to get it off topic.

How is it critiscm if it's just lashing out without a point? You lashed out at me calling out my character, even though we agreed on the point of boost vs juice. You're not making any sense here. You're basing this all on your internet interpretations of my posts and admitted you don't know me? Really? You're not making any sense here.

[IHateThisSite]

Fight irl !!!!

[Doug1227]

I want in on this action! From a dig, at the track! Preferably Crandall. It'll be fun regardless, but I'm banking on boost plus A6! LOL! Crandall won't boot you, btw...I've run 10.8's in a convertible with no bar out there and never been looked at twice. Advisable, probably not, but doable.

[Midnight11]

What does my sig say? Oh that's right

[Phuck Phace]

My car is only for shows and dynos.

[Selcouth]

You may not get booted. Tire spin = High ET's lol

But it will make for some killer mph. :yaoface2:

[STROKD]

Still think Dave's car will be faster trap speed wise which should transulate to a win if the power to weight ratios are similar... the nitrous car isn't going to hook if on anything but a slick or MT DR...

You 2 need to go to Crandal where they dont care about roll cages and tech, and do a best 2 out of 3 or 3 out of 5 showdown...

[Grandpa]

What does my sig say? Oh that's right

Hang your hat on that because it's all you got. lol.

But it will make for some killer mph. :yaoface2:

True!

[Midnight11]

keep practicing shifting

[STROKD]

Are either cars going to need to shift to fifth? That could cause a problem for the blower car if its going through the last few hundred feet bogging...:sad72: The nitrous car will have a huge advantage here with all the torque...

[BLK2012GT]

Are either cars going to need to shift to fifth? That could cause a problem for the blower car if its going through the last few hundred feet bogging...:sad72: The nitrous car will have a huge advantage here with all the torque...

I have 3.31's so I shouldn't have to.

[STROKD]

I have 3.31's so I shouldn't have to.

looked it up... your 4th is a 1.34/1. My 86 has a TKO with a 1.32/1 which is nearly identical to your fourth. I had 3.55s and a 28" tire which is similar to a 3.25 rear gear vs my stock tire height.

I could only go about 120 at 7200 rpm, and you guys are spinning 7800-8000 correct? I would hope both of your cars would trap in the 135-140 range, so if that's the case you need a tall tire (28-29") or you are going to need to shift. If David has 3.73's he's gonna have to shift regardless of his tires. He'd be better off running a 26" slick if possible.

Just some friendly advice.:angels25: Im good at math and stuff.

[Phuck Phace]

I have 3:31s too. No slicks yet. Spin all day.

[pohnjarker]

I have 3:31s too. No slicks yet. Spin all day.

you can borrow my Welds with 275/60-15 as long as you promise to wax :yaoface2:

[STROKD]

you can borrow my Welds with 275/60-15 as long as you promise to wax :yaoface2:

these are 28" tall, he MIGHT be able to cross the line screaming in fourth which would be ideal... at the top charge of his blower and not having to include an extra shift.:hat:

[Grandpa]

keep practicing shifting

Im sure you will keep duckin a rematch until your longtubes are installed giving you even more advantage.

[BLK2012GT]

you can borrow my Welds with 275/60-15 as long as you promise to wax :yaoface2:

Thanks ass

[Midnight11]

Im sure you will keep duckin a rematch until your longtubes are installed giving you even more advantage.

yea im the one that ducks on rematches lol


you shouldnt be afraid since you have that awesome tq curve lmao

[Grandpa]

yea im the one that ducks on rematches lol


you shouldnt be afraid since you have that awesome tq curve lmao

When have i ducked out? Never once! We're gonna have to put this shit to rest you lil shit! Lol

[46Tbird]

Is either car running?

[blownaltered]

David's car was moving under its own power Saturday when I went up to ts with my car. Car sounds damn good. I helped push a non running black car into the shop at closing, but not sure if that was the other car or not.

[Bearded Banger]

I think both cars are still getting little things sorted out. David's is closer than Jeff's to done. Mostly cause Jeff still has to do clutch break in. Can't wait to see these beasts out on the road.

[Toby]

We are working vigorously to get both cars running in top shape, but there is only so much time in one day. Both cars are new with only a few cars ever having done what we are trying to accomplish with each car. We want ton ensure there are 0 problems or issues when each car leaves so they only have to return for more upgrades.

[46Tbird]

I'm sure it's all over facebook, but could someone just list the mods for each car?

[BLK2012GT]

I'm sure it's all over facebook, but could someone just list the mods for each car?

David's is too much to list but mine is bolt ons with spray.

[Toby]

David's is too much to list but mine is bolt ons with spray.

Naa both cars have bolt ons.

[BLK2012GT]

Naa both cars have bolt ons.

True

[STROKD]

I'm sure it's all over facebook, but could someone just list the mods for each car?

Ill empty their sandbags...

Phuck Phace's white 12 has a D1 I think (going to get a F1 eventually), with fuel system, and makes 700+ rw

Blk12GTs is a stroker motor, cams, ported heads, and a 200-300 fogger direct port nitrous setup. should also make well over 700 rw.

Neither car has drag suspension or great tires, and both have 3.31 gears with stock 6 speed manuals.

Should make for some interesting races.

[BLK2012GT]

I don't have stroker kit, just bump the compression up to 13:1. And what do you mean drag set up? I'm not in stock suspension.

[STROKD]

I don't have stroker kit, just bump the compression up to 13:1. And what do you mean drag set up? I'm not in stock suspension.

Oh, my fault, thought you had a stroker. drag setup as in proper tires and suspension to hook... both you guys are on donks and street tires, right? big ass sway bars and road race shocks are opposite of what you want to hook from a stop.

[BLK2012GT]

I don't have road race shocks and I'll have different wheels and tires on the car once I take it to the track. What David has I have no clue.

[STROKD]

I don't have road race shocks and I'll have different wheels and tires on the car once I take it to the track. What David has I have no clue.

if you have tires, you will have a much better chance. You going to go with a slick or a drag radial? sticks like slicks a little better, easier to dump the clutch and hammer it.:rockit:

[46Tbird]

I have some 28x9s on 10" Race Stars if someone wants to give them a shot. You'll either have to remove the rear sway bar or get relocation brackets to mount them. Should make either (both?) a whole lot more fun...

[blownaltered]

I don't know about Jeff's but David's car isn't going to have weight transfer for shit. That car is going to be all over the place when in boost

[Phuck Phace]

Road race-ish setup.
Fays 2 Watts Link, Koni Sports, Eibach sways, Sportlines, Steeda Bump Steer kit, Billet LCAs, etc...
It's just for highway fun.