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06-08-2013, 10:28 AM
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Re: Crandall - Friday night!
Originally Posted by Luke
Time for an ice chest and bags and bags of ice!
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What exactly does the ice do? Ive always wondered why people do that, I figured it would crack things because of the sudden temp change.
Im assuming you're talking of throwing it on top of the motor.
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06-08-2013, 11:47 AM
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Yes, ice down the blower case and maybe the intake tube as well. You can also get an intercooler tank with a larger opening and add ice directly to the coolant. CO2 spray bar on the face of the heat exchanger helps as well.
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06-08-2013, 12:10 PM
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Killer chiller!
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06-08-2013, 03:17 PM
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Re: Crandall - Friday night!
Originally Posted by downtime!
Yes, ice down the blower case and maybe the intake tube as well. You can also get an intercooler tank with a larger opening and add ice directly to the coolant. CO2 spray bar on the face of the heat exchanger helps as well.
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Off topic, but remember the 04 lightning concept? I remember reading the article and it said the ac system chilled coolant that I think ran through the intercooler or blower. Something like that. Is there any similar aftermarket systems like that on the market?
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06-08-2013, 03:46 PM
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See post #33.....
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06-08-2013, 04:51 PM
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06-08-2013, 08:15 PM
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Yeah, been looking at them already! LOL! The funny part is that the IAT was lower 5 minutes after I left and got on the highway than it EVER was the whole time I was at the track. It cools pretty decent when moving, but needs a better way to cool the car when sitting still. Either the big trunk mounted reservoir and a couple bags of ice, or the KC.
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06-08-2013, 09:51 PM
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I've even been playing around with fans on the heat exchanger. They do it on Termi's, why not on a KB on a 5.0?
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06-09-2013, 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by JDMLOL
What exactly does the ice do? Ive always wondered why people do that, I figured it would crack things because of the sudden temp change.
Im assuming you're talking of throwing it on top of the motor.
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I put ice in the intercooler reservoir, and another bag on top of the blower.
Originally Posted by Doug1227
Yeah, been looking at them already! LOL! The funny part is that the IAT was lower 5 minutes after I left and got on the highway than it EVER was the whole time I was at the track. It cools pretty decent when moving, but needs a better way to cool the car when sitting still. Either the big trunk mounted reservoir and a couple bags of ice, or the KC.
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Cobra guys will jump the wire to the intercooler pump to run while the car is off, I'm sure you could do the same, just have to find which connections/relay. 2 things though, don't kill your battery or have a back up and don't forget to put coolant back in during the winter.
I could load up with ice before a run, go through the staging lanes with the car off as much as possible, then make one pass and the water would already be warm/hot. Just from icing it down though you could tell the car ran much better. If you can find a "bag your own ice" station, it'll become a good friend!
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06-09-2013, 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by downtime!
I've even been playing around with fans on the heat exchanger. They do it on Termi's, why not on a KB on a 5.0?
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I have two 10" fans on an AFCO heat exchanger. They help out mostly when sitting in the staging lanes and are a good addition I think.
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06-10-2013, 12:13 AM
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The heat exchanger is decent in the KB kit, but it doesn't have the fans. Maybe a retrofit with the spal fans would be decent. It might make more sense to just put that money towards the KC instead.
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06-10-2013, 11:17 AM
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28.4mph on the backend, play on playa!
The power is there but those shift flares are killing your ET. You don't need me to tell you this! Get the tune to shift right (and run ANY month except June-July-August, lol) and you'll be 10s easy. Great job dude!
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06-10-2013, 12:01 PM
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I was looking at my gear calculator this morning and the 1-2 and 2-3 occur before the 1/8th mile mark and I was pulling 3rd for the entire back half, so that makes sense. If I can clean up the shifts, the 1/8th mile numbers should improve dramatically, then put a +28 mph on those and it should be in the correct range. I have no idea what kind of MPH or ET I'm losing, but it's got to be pretty significant.
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06-10-2013, 12:13 PM
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Saturday was a bad night for good ET's. The DA at Redline was 3000+. My MPH was down about 2.5MPH in the 1/8th vs. better air.
Originally Posted by Doug1227
Not as well as I would have hoped. I've got a few bugs to work out... mostly with the shifting. It's acting like it's hitting a rev-limiter on both the 1-2 shift as well as the 2-3 shift, but I don't think it's the actual rev limiter. Manny said he has the hard limiter at 7700, so I don't think it's that. Anyway, it feels like you hit the brakes when it hits the limiter and it's doing it on both shifts, so I'm sure I'm losing both some ET as well as MPH. I'll get the bugs worked out and hope for a better result next time. My best pass was:
1.746 60'
7.503 @ 96.05 1/8th
11.5 @ 124.42 1/4
Best 60' was a 1.67 but it's still spinning a bit. I also found out this sucker is 3900# with me and a 1/2 tank! DAMN! That was with the spare removed and pretty much everything else as is.
I also want to figure out a way to get some of the heat out of the supercharger when at the track. Sitting still, I didn't have a way to really cool it off. Going to look into the Killer Chiller or maybe just a larger reservoir to put ice in or something. It never really cooled all the way off. I didn't have a lot of time, so I got in a total of 4 passes and was averaging about 30 minutes apart which wasn't much for cool down. So
In summary, my list of action for next time are:
1.) Get the shifts sorted out. I think there's probably .2 and 2mph associated with this!
2.) Consider going to a 15" DR. Not sure on this. It might be worth trying the 19's some more even if they are a little fickle.
3.) Consider some weight savings somewhere.
4.) Look at cooling options.
Overall, a good first trip with lots of room for improvement! 
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06-10-2013, 12:20 PM
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To clarify, I ended up going to Ennis on Friday night. DA's were below 2000'.
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