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**BLK2012GT** · 08-18-2013, 12:23 PM

Yeah I took my car to a scrape iron yard and weighed my car and without me in it and around half a tank it weighed 3873 without me in it. So with me I'm at 4150. So Brent your car weighs 600 pounds less then mine. So right there I could pick up .6 in time in weight alone.

**Midnight11** · 08-18-2013, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT

Yeah I took my car to a scrape iron yard and weighed my car and without me in it and around half a tank it weighed 3873 without me in it. So with me I'm at 4150. So Brent your car weighs 600 pounds less then mine. So right there I could pick up .6 in time in weight alone.

I really don't see how yours weighs that much. Usually bases are lighter then premiums

**BLK2012GT** · 08-18-2013, 12:29 PM

Originally Posted by Midnight11

I really don't see how yours weighs that much. Usually bases are lighter then premiums

Yeah that's what I thought too unless their scale is off which I highly doubt it cause that's money for them. Plus they weighed me alone and it was correct on my weight.

**Grandpa** · 08-18-2013, 12:31 PM

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT

Yeah I took my car to a scrape iron yard and weighed my car and without me in it and around half a tank it weighed 3873 without me in it. So with me I'm at 4150. So Brent your car weighs 600 pounds less then mine. So right there I could pick up .6 in time in weight alone.

Man, that is crazy. I think you may have a crooked scrapyard or something. lol. You need to find another scale. There is no reason your car should be that much heavier than someone like Doug's car. His car is an auto, the KB and regular wheel setup and he's much lighter than you. The auto cars tend to be quite abit heavier. With your M6 and racing wheels I don't see how you can be that heavy.

Originally Posted by Midnight11

I really don't see how yours weighs that much. Usually bases are lighter then premiums

I agree.

**Yagermeister** · 08-18-2013, 12:16 PM

Stock my car with premium heated seats and all the stuff in the trunk half tank of gas and me in it was 3825

**Yagermeister** · 08-18-2013, 12:21 PM

Wbt has run publicly a 10.87 @ 126 uncorrected in around 1400 DA which is really close to the 1941 DA @9pm you guys had before the kmember went in. Would have been good to meet them. My combo is almost identical to his hence why I am confident I'll get close to what he ran. What did his car run last night?

**BLK2012GT** · 08-18-2013, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by Yagermeister

Wbt has run publicly a 10.87 @ 126 uncorrected in around 1400 DA which is really close to the 1941 DA @9pm you guys had before the kmember went in. Would have been good to meet them. My combo is almost identical to his hence why I am confident I'll get close to what he ran. What did his car run last night?

10.80's I think. His car is gutted inside. And he's only running 3.31's and a 4k stall.

**kdanner** · 08-18-2013, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT

10.80's I think. His car is gutted inside. And he's only running 3.31's and a 4k stall.

Car has a roll bar, so no back seat. Passenger seat is removed at the track, nobody else ever does that, right? So, if that is what you call gutted, ok then.

Car ran a best of 10.92 at nearly 125 last night. 60' was 1.55-1.57 every pass. Track surface was awesome. If you guys think that place is bad, you should suffer at San Antonio sometime, you'll change your minds real quick.

I do wonder about trap speeds at Ennis though. This car has trapped a hint above 126 at San Antonio and Houston, and has never run out of RPM in 3rd, but it did last night and I had to make it cross while upshifting to 4th. Only way it could run out of RPM would be to have some slippage, or it's trapping faster than before. Data doesn't show any slippage. I really think those trap speeds were inaccurate at least in the left lane, he never ran in the other side.

**46Tbird** · 08-18-2013, 03:21 PM

Good to meet you guys. That GT runs hard!

**wbt** · 08-18-2013, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT

10.80's I think. His car is gutted inside. And he's only running 3.31's and a 4k stall.

I told you on s197 I was going to be there. Seems you are full of excuses. Not sure why. My car is far from gutted. As kdanner said, it has the passenger seat removed, rear seats removed, and trunk liners removed. Maybe ~65lbs. tops from that. The car is NHRA legal down to 10.00 which means all that equipment only adds weight to the car. It still has A/C, stereo, and is very streetable. Not anything close to being a race car.

Now we hear your car weighs 4,000+lbs. without any heavy superchargers, turbo kits, etc. It must be the heaviest non-power adder s197 on the planet. I would be horribly disappointed with the times and trap speeds your car ran based on the dyno numbers. This is why you shouldn't get wrapped up in racing dyno's. The track is what counts.

Originally Posted by 46Tbird

Good to meet you guys. That GT runs hard!

Thanks man! Enjoyed meeting and chatting with everyone. Now we aren't so bad in person are we? :P

Onto the track conditions.....this was my first time back to the Motorplex in 13 years. The facilities were in every bit as good of shape as they were in the late '90's and only second to Houston Raceway Park IMO. The track was fantastic all night. I never had a traction issue. The car hooked and was straight as an arrow down the entire track. I was highly impressed and will be back to run more. It's a long haul but worth it.

On the times.....I made quite a few changes to the car in the past few months and our goal was to work on the tune and any other issues we ran into. The car ran great in crappy air and it showed great potential for when the weather starts to cool in a couple of months.

Since last November, this car has run 10's every time it has been out in varying conditions. It has run 10's at every major track in Texas. I am super excited about that. No other street legal N/A stock long block car has done that.

**DirtyD** · 08-18-2013, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by kdanner

Car has a roll bar, so no back seat. Passenger seat is removed at the track, nobody else ever does that, right? So, if that is what you call gutted, ok then.

Car ran a best of 10.92 at nearly 125 last night. 60' was 1.55-1.57 every pass. Track surface was awesome. If you guys think that place is bad, you should suffer at San Antonio sometime, you'll change your minds real quick.

I do wonder about trap speeds at Ennis though. This car has trapped a hint above 126 at San Antonio and Houston, and has never run out of RPM in 3rd, but it did last night and I had to make it cross while upshifting to 4th. Only way it could run out of RPM would be to have some slippage, or it's trapping faster than before. Data doesn't show any slippage. I really think those trap speeds were inaccurate at least in the left lane, he never ran in the other side.

Yeah, I notice the trap speeds seemed just a tad off for some of my runs.

**BLK2012GT** · 08-18-2013, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by kdanner

Car has a roll bar, so no back seat. Passenger seat is removed at the track, nobody else ever does that, right? So, if that is what you call gutted, ok then.

Car ran a best of 10.92 at nearly 125 last night. 60' was 1.55-1.57 every pass. Track surface was awesome. If you guys think that place is bad, you should suffer at San Antonio sometime, you'll change your minds real quick.

I do wonder about trap speeds at Ennis though. This car has trapped a hint above 126 at San Antonio and Houston, and has never run out of RPM in 3rd, but it did last night and I had to make it cross while upshifting to 4th. Only way it could run out of RPM would be to have some slippage, or it's trapping faster than before. Data doesn't show any slippage. I really think those trap speeds were inaccurate at least in the left lane, he never ran in the other side.

Just took a glance inside real quick and only saw a passenger seat so the inside is empty so it looks gutted.

**Midnight11** · 08-18-2013, 12:25 PM

Originally Posted by Yagermeister

Wbt has run publicly a 10.87 @ 126 uncorrected in around 1400 DA which is really close to the 1941 DA @9pm you guys had before the kmember went in. Would have been good to meet them. My combo is almost identical to his hence why I am confident I'll get close to what he ran. What did his car run last night?

He said last night was the worst air he's ran in lol still ran 10s I think around mids. Ask josh Gomez the 13 auto d1 I know they lined up for sure

**Doug1227** · 08-18-2013, 12:21 PM

Mine's 3880 with me and 1/4 tank. Nothing in the trunk.

**JDBishopArts** · 08-18-2013, 12:25 PM

Yeah I was 3872 with half a tank of gas and me in it.