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Old 09-16-2013, 09:12 AM   #1
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Originally Posted by downtime! View Post
The Cobra Jets are also NOT running the 6R80. They come with the good old C4 3 speed auto, straight out of the 60's and 70's. There's also a 2 speed option they're calling a C2, but I'm betting it's just an updated version of the old Powerglide.
Yea there using a c4 and a power glide just call it something weird. I was just utilizing the cobra jet to make a point the autos are faster on track than sticks. I drag race only manual cars cause I love the challenge and fun they offer. But if I wanna go fast especially with a power adder auto is the way to go. But ill stick to my jericos and mt82 till it blows. Heck I still have road race cars with t-5s in em. I worry everytime I race that it will break. I shattered every gear in one once. Think 500hp was to much lol
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Old 09-16-2013, 09:19 AM   #2
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I talked to the Cobra Jet engineers when I was at Watson Racing and they use a C3 prepared by Joel's on Joy a local race trans shop in MI. They chose it because of one main reason...quick access to replacement parts. When you are racing at the level the CJ's race on, you are generally checking/replacing/modifying parts on the car all the time and need quick access to parts. I'd venture to say most transmissions in 6-9sec cars (in the 1/4 mile) are autos of some sort due to consistency and needing two hands on the wheel
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Old 09-16-2013, 09:56 AM   #3
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Originally Posted by Yagermeister View Post
I talked to the Cobra Jet engineers when I was at Watson Racing and they use a C3 prepared by Joel's on Joy a local race trans shop in MI. They chose it because of one main reason...quick access to replacement parts. When you are racing at the level the CJ's race on, you are generally checking/replacing/modifying parts on the car all the time and need quick access to parts. I'd venture to say most transmissions in 6-9sec cars (in the 1/4 mile) are autos of some sort due to consistency and needing two hands on the wheel
Unless your a pro stock driver lol. But yes sir your are correct most cars in that range are autos. Seldon you see a car that quick that's a manual
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Old 09-16-2013, 10:18 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by Yagermeister View Post
I talked to the Cobra Jet engineers when I was at Watson Racing and they use a C3 prepared by Joel's on Joy a local race trans shop in MI. They chose it because of one main reason...quick access to replacement parts. When you are racing at the level the CJ's race on, you are generally checking/replacing/modifying parts on the car all the time and need quick access to parts. I'd venture to say most transmissions in 6-9sec cars (in the 1/4 mile) are autos of some sort due to consistency and needing two hands on the wheel
And also because they don't shock the tires anywhere near as hard as a manual car does allowing it to be much more settled going down the track.

Regardless, this conversation has gotten retarded. It only applies to the people building a purpose built, point and shoot track car. There are still a lot of people out there who still like rowing gears taking up the challenge to add the driver equation to the mix to get the car down the track.

Personally, I find driving a car like Brent's boring as hell to drive. It's just not my personal thing. While it puts up great numbers at the track, when driving a car like that it's pretty boring and uneventful. Set the air pressure, stage it, load the suspension, hit a good light and let it fly. Not much to it. No drivers skill to it after the light turns green, not much of a challenge at all. I prefer to row gears, improve my technique and being more connected to the car to enjoy the expierence.

Again, like I said before, we are doing the same things here, just going different ways about it. It all comes down to personal preference and how a car is going to be used. Auto/manual both have their positives and negatives.
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Ah okay.
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Old 09-16-2013, 09:08 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT View Post
Yes auto is the way to go for the track but it isn't as fun as the manual on the streets. So since my car see the streets 99% of the time the stick is the only way I will go.
I agree.
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The v160 in the supra def holds a 1000whp untouched.
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Steve your point is perfect. Autos are boring to drive. But produce awesome track numbers. Me I personally love shifting even with this pos we have in the car.
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Old 09-16-2013, 10:37 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by Rebelracer568 View Post
Steve your point is perfect. Autos are boring to drive. But produce awesome track numbers. Me I personally love shifting even with this pos we have in the car.
I have a ton of friends that would agree with you and wonder why I got an auto lol.

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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto View Post
I have a ton of friends that would agree with you and wonder why I got an auto lol.

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There is nothing wrong with having an auto. It comes down to personal preference is all. I understand why some owners like/want a stalled auto car for the track. Very easy to run a number with, a monkey could drive one and I don't mean that as a bad thing. It takes the human error out of the equation, I get it. But it also takes the fun factor out of it for me. I like more than going to the track. I really like the twisty country backroads and rowing through the gears feeling connected to the car. Ever tried driving an auto through the backroads? It's annoying as fuck with a transmission that is confused most of the time trying to predict what the driver wants from it that changes every few seconds.
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT View Post
There is nothing wrong with having an auto. It comes down to personal preference is all. I understand why some owners like/want a stalled auto car for the track. Very easy to run a number with, a monkey could drive one and I don't mean that as a bad thing. It takes the human error out of the equation, I get it. But it also takes the fun factor out of it for me. I like more than going to the track. I really like the twisty country backroads and rowing through the gears feeling connected to the car. Ever tried driving an auto through the backroads? It's annoying as fuck with a transmission that is confused most of the time trying to predict what the driver wants from it that changes every few seconds.
It's all good, I get why anyone would go either route.

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Old 09-16-2013, 10:52 AM   #12
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If I lived and work anywhere around Dallas, I honestly would've probably bought an auto strictly because of the suck ass traffic anywhere south of 380, east of PGBT, and west of Rockwall...
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"C3" is code for the Reid cased TH400 in the 2014. "C2" is the Reid cased PG available in the 5.4 cars. All 2013 were C4, some of the prior year 5.4 cars were too. The fastest ones are sticks, just like in any other form of drag racing.

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Originally Posted by kdanner View Post
"C3" is code for the Reid cased TH400 in the 2014. "C2" is the Reid cased PG available in the 5.4 cars. All 2013 were C4, some of the prior year 5.4 cars were too. That fastest ones are sticks, just like in any other form of drag racing.

Those tires look A LOT bigger than what they come with from Ford...

33x13.5?
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Those tires look A LOT bigger than what they come with from Ford...

33x13.5?
Right. They come with 30x9 which is the max size stock eliminator tire, the cars come set up for stock eliminator. But, the 4.0 blower engine combo for both the CJ and COPO is only allowed in Super Stock, so those cars need the chassis work to put them in a Super Stock configuration where the max allowed tire is 14x32.
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