Jay Leno drives the 2014 Z28

[re-rx7]

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto Huh? Uh, all of the stats except the very last one were in comparison to the Boss 302. Quick review of my own post: This car is obviously not aimed at the GT500. I'd easily take this over a Boss. Let's see: (As stated, not in comparison to a GT500 lol) 56 more horsepower Advantage = Z/28(Uh the Z/28 has far less power than a GT500, so NOT in comparison to a GT500 lol) Almost 100 more ft/lbs of torque Advantage = Z/28(Uh the Z/28 doesn't have more torque than a GT500, so not comparing to the GT500 lol) Undoubtedly a far sooner power delivery from the LS7 Advantage = Z/28(Still comparing the Z/28 to the Boss 302 since this is obviously not in comparison to the GT500 lol) Power to weight for Boss is 444/3580= 0.124hp/lb, Z/28 is 500/3760 = 0.133 Advantage = Z/28(Again, this isn't true to a GT500 since that car weighs more than 3580lbs lol) 255/285s on the Boss means 1080 total contact patch, Z/28 is 1220 = Advantage Z/28(As stated in the sentence... Boss, not GT500) Torque to weight for Boss is 380/3580=0.106tq/lb, 470/3760= 0.125 = Advantage Z/28(Not being compared to the GT500 since it makes far more than 380ft lbs of torque... oh and I said Boss in the sentence) Oh and just adding the Camaro comes standard with carbon ceramic brakes. Those will outperform the brakes on a GT500 all day and night.(Just through that in there to point out that this car comes standard with better brakes than Ford's best Mustang so obviously the brakes would humiliate those on the "medium" level car) Oh and who runs the AC while racing? Man I understand this is a Mustang site but damn the delusion is strong in this thread. -Alex Wow, so when you comparison shop for tires, you make your decisions solely by the width for full performance aspects? You don't take into account the tires intended purpose, sidewall, manufacturer, tread design or anything else. How the fuck do you think a Corvette with smaller tires handles BETTER than a Corvette with larger tires? I guess it's safe to assume then that you would prefer to have 255 Bridgestone Blizzaks over a 225 Toyo Proxes R888 for a roadcourse lol. The Blizzaks are wider than the R888s, so they must be better for autocross and drag right LOL? -Alex

Holy shit. You think you know something about suspensions and driving?
Blizzaks and and r888's huh? Do you even know what compound those tires use? Did you even take into account the weight? Aero? Every car acts different to suspension. I say that the z28 needs large tires for weight. The weight is the reason for the large tires. A lot of weight.

[re-rx7]

Well you ever been to DKC? We could find out there.

[Dominic Toretto]

Originally Posted by re-rx7 Well you ever been to DKC? We could find out there.

Not sure what that acronym is for but, I'm really not going to draw this e-fight out anymore. I was simply responding to you saying "anything performs better with 305s all around." All I said was there's more to tire performance than simply the width of the tire as found out on other platforms.

-Alex

[Zeek]

For 60k you could buy a Boss and outfit it so much better than buying that crappy Camaro. Just sayin. + you would have A/C

[Dominic Toretto]

Originally Posted by Zeek For 6k you could buy a hatch Civic and outfit it so much better than buying a $30k Mustang. Just sayin. + you would have $$$

See how well throwing the lame "I can buy this for cheaper and mod it to be faster" card can work against the car you are defending?

I've found it best not to lean on things that have nothing to do with lap times, or actual performance when comparing cars. It's so ghey when people are like, "yeah sure a Corvette is faster bu bu but, GM sucks" or "So what if a Porsche GT2 RS is faster than my C4 Corvette, Porsche guys are snobs."

If a car is faster, it's faster. Just sayin.

-Alex

[re-rx7]

Dallas karting.

[Dominic Toretto]

Originally Posted by re-rx7 Dallas karting.

Just did a google search, looks like fun!

-Alex

[re-rx7]

A 240? Why not just buy an old fox? When it's performance oriented a cars price does dictate a lot of things. Your comparing price to every car but we are talkin performance cars.

[Dominic Toretto]

Originally Posted by re-rx7 A 240? Why not just buy an old fox? When it's performance oriented a cars price does dictate a lot of things. Your comparing price to every car but we are talkin performance cars.

What does price dictate to you?

-Alex

[re-rx7]

Price dictates everything. Quality, engineering, materials.

[Dominic Toretto]

Originally Posted by re-rx7 Price dictates everything. Quality, engineering, materials.

In what quantifiable way? How are you measuring it?

-Alex

[re-rx7]

I measure it through quality, materials, engineering. You may measure it through just performance I measure it differently.

[Dominic Toretto]

Originally Posted by re-rx7 You may measure it through just performance I measure it differently.

Sweet Jesus ... Okay bye bye.

-Alex

[re-rx7]

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto Sweet Jesus ... Okay bye bye. -Alex

I figure if you wanna make dumbass comments I would to. What experience do you have driving? Your knowledge is very little from what I can tell.

[re-rx7]

A performance cars price dictates how fast and nice it should be. The Vette vs a Ferrari. Vette may be just as quick but that's where the similarities end.