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**Oxford14Stang** · 08-12-2013, 11:37 AM

Downtime, you seem like a knowledgeable man so I don't know what makes you think I haven't tried just about everything. I've tried different launches, 3k, 2500, 2000, idle, have messed with air pressure, regular pressure, 25psi, 20psi, even 17 and 14 once(didn't help lol was desperate), have tried traction control on, off, speed shifting, and granny. I've always feathered it when I had to but in that video it was to the point where I had to let off and focus in saving the car, I've done everything besides write down all my conditions and numbers. I have saved all my slips from every pass. I'm pretty much doing the same thing now as I did when I ran 8.3-8.6 consistently. Just seems the last two times I've gone I've been losing more and more traction, I'm sure my thread depth now may play a factor in that. I've even thrown my keys to rebelracer one night out there when I couldn't seem to run anything else than 8.8s and 8.9s as he pulled up they prepped he had to wait. He took it down the track after that and still ran the same 8.9 I did. Him saying he couldn't get the car to hook. No doubt the stock tires are killing me I know but its not like I haven't tried everything and anything I could think of.

46TBird thank you for your input on it, I know the stock suspension blows on these cars I just got it lowered and plan on buying struts and shocks soon, as well as the rear lca

**downtime!** · 08-13-2013, 12:42 AM

Originally Posted by Oxford14Stang

Downtime, you seem like a knowledgeable man so I don't know what makes you think I haven't tried just about everything. I've tried different launches, 3k, 2500, 2000, idle, have messed with air pressure, regular pressure, 25psi, 20psi, even 17 and 14 once(didn't help lol was desperate), have tried traction control on, off, speed shifting, and granny. I've always feathered it when I had to but in that video it was to the point where I had to let off and focus in saving the car, I've done everything besides write down all my conditions and numbers. I have saved all my slips from every pass. I'm pretty much doing the same thing now as I did when I ran 8.3-8.6 consistently. Just seems the last two times I've gone I've been losing more and more traction, I'm sure my thread depth now may play a factor in that. I've even thrown my keys to rebelracer one night out there when I couldn't seem to run anything else than 8.8s and 8.9s as he pulled up they prepped he had to wait. He took it down the track after that and still ran the same 8.9 I did. Him saying he couldn't get the car to hook. No doubt the stock tires are killing me I know but its not like I haven't tried everything and anything I could think of.

46TBird thank you for your input on it, I know the stock suspension blows on these cars I just got it lowered and plan on buying struts and shocks soon, as well as the rear lca

It could be as simple as worn tires. As was mentioned, suspension work is big on these cars, though all I have on mine currently is LCA's. Conventional drag race wisdom says that lowering a car is bad, but there are several cars, like Danny's, that run very strong and consistent using Sportlines. I have the ProKit springs on mine and will likely change them out for the drag launch kit if the new tune is successful.

I wasn't meaning to sound like I was ragging on you either, I just see too many times where someone blames the track and gets frustrated and stops racing. Just trying to throw some ideas out there to give you stuff to try and hopefully keep you motivated. When I get mine back from the shop, maybe we can get together at the track. I'll let you use my DR's and we'll see what that car can do!

**Oxford14Stang** · 08-13-2013, 01:25 AM

Originally Posted by downtime!

It could be as simple as worn tires. As was mentioned, suspension work is big on these cars, though all I have on mine currently is LCA's. Conventional drag race wisdom says that lowering a car is bad, but there are several cars, like Danny's, that run very strong and consistent using Sportlines. I have the ProKit springs on mine and will likely change them out for the drag launch kit if the new tune is successful.

I wasn't meaning to sound like I was ragging on you either, I just see too many times where someone blames the track and gets frustrated and stops racing. Just trying to throw some ideas out there to give you stuff to try and hopefully keep you motivated. When I get mine back from the shop, maybe we can get together at the track. I'll let you use my DR's and we'll see what that car can do!

No worries man, no offense taken. Would Love to get together at the track someday, maybe soon? Thanks for your info. I'll keep it all in mind.

**DirtyD** · 08-12-2013, 11:56 AM

Get a UCA before LCAs, Jay. Those are the wheel hop solvers.

**46Tbird** · 08-12-2013, 12:15 PM

At 400hp, just try some good tires. I run consistent 7.9s on an untuned car with Sportlines and 20" Nitto drag radials. I would expect you guys to be in the mid 7s with the tunes and some good grip.

**Oxford14Stang** · 08-12-2013, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

Get a UCA before LCAs, Jay. Those are the wheel hop solvers.

I almost never have issues with my car wheel hopping. Have only felt it maybe 3-4 times and was only for a split second.

Originally Posted by 46Tbird

At 400hp, just try some good tires. I run consistent 7.9s on an untuned car with Sportlines and 20" Nitto drag radials. I would expect you guys to be in the mid 7s with the tunes and some good grip.

That's impressive man. I'd say your a damn good driver and know your car well. I could see 7.9s out of my car with set of good tires. No doubt.

re-rx7 · 08-12-2013, 10:52 PM

I ran 8 flat on stock 235's at Denton hoppin and skipping with a trap of 91.

**thelandshark** · 08-13-2013, 09:48 AM

I'm down for joinin that track day I wanna see downtime car run

**Oxford14Stang** · 08-13-2013, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by thelandshark

I'm down for joinin that track day I wanna see downtime car run

Yeah would be sweet to watch his car run.

Downtime what shop is your car at now? What's all getting done and when do you expect to get it back?

**DirtyD** · 08-13-2013, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Oxford14Stang

Yeah would be sweet to watch his car run.

Downtime what shop is your car at now? What's all getting done and when do you expect to get it back?

HPP most likely.

**Oxford14Stang** · 08-13-2013, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

HPP most likely.

That's what I was thinking.

**JDBishopArts** · 08-13-2013, 04:29 PM

I'll add this too. Just because you're on the track doesn't mean you shift and put your foot through the floor and get mad because you spin. Even stock these cars put down 360-380hp to the ground. That isn't chump HP. On the street tires that come on these cars you can't stomp on it.

You have to feel your car. Learn to drive it. LEARN. Not watch fast and furious and think you're a racing god. Driving a car is easy. Driving it right takes work and practice.

**JDMLOL** · 08-13-2013, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by JDBishopArts

I'll add this too. Just because you're on the track doesn't mean you shift and put your foot through the floor and get mad because you spin. Even stock these cars put down 360-380hp to the ground. That isn't chump HP. On the street tires that come on these cars you can't stomp on it.

You have to feel your car. Learn to drive it. LEARN. Not watch fast and furious and think you're a racing god. Driving a car is easy. Driving it right takes work and practice.

This seems to be a pretty good discussion... I have only made two passes ever in an old c10 truck. I have to agree with JD these cars make quite a bit of power from the factory, especially for some kid that is 20 something (like me) that has really never had any racing experience on a track. Sure, some of you guys throw around 800-1000rwhp like it's nothing but most of the guys doing that have a few years on me. I'm not quite ready to track my car yet because I want to have a daily and be financially capable to make repairs once I start breaking stuff. I'm seriously considering buying something less powerful to track just to get a feel for it and get it down. I honestly think this car is too much for me to start off with. Some of you guys have been doing this since the late 70s and 80s when the exact same cars had less than half the power of what is available now. Would you all agree that it's better to start a little smaller for someone with less experience?