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**DirtyD** · 07-26-2013, 11:29 AM

Danny, get some 50W ballasts and 5000K bulbs from TRS. You will wonder why you didn't in the first place.

Unfortunately we can't run a 50W system in our '13 cars unless we completely disregard the built in ballasts from the factory. I've thought about it, but figured if I'm going to do that, I will just retrofit a FXR projector system from TRS into the headlights, as a guy over on F150online.com did to his 2013 F150 headlights.

Oh, and your fog light bulbs are probably Hoen.

**Dan12GT** · 07-26-2013, 11:29 AM

Ya i'd probably stick to the 35w, I think they are plenty bright I probably just need a tad bit less color.

re-rx7 · 07-26-2013, 11:33 AM

4300 to 5k your good. 4300 being the best.

**DirtyD** · 07-26-2013, 11:45 AM

50W in the headlights will be fine. And you can actually get better color and more lumens from a 50W 5000K setup than you can a 35W 4300K setup.

I changed my 35W 5000K setup to a 50W 5000K setup with DDM stuff and even though the color shifted down in Kelvin slightly, there was way more light. Too bad it was scatttered like hell from the F150 reflector housing.

**JDMLOL** · 07-26-2013, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

50W in the headlights will be fine. And you can actually get better color and more lumens from a 50W 5000K setup than you can a 35W 4300K setup.

I changed my 35W 5000K setup to a 50W 5000K setup with DDM stuff and even though the color shifted down in Kelvin slightly, there was way more light. Too bad it was scatttered like hell from the F150 reflector housing.

You don't think the concentration of heat will damage the housing, especially if it's a projector type? I had a buddy run the 50w and I think that's what caused his headlights to slowly yellow.

**46Tbird** · 07-26-2013, 11:52 AM

Holy shit, a thread about ricer lights goes four pages....

**JDMLOL** · 07-26-2013, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by 46Tbird

Holy shit, a thread about ricer lights goes four pages....

I love me some pretty lights... as long as they are functional and serve a purpose.

re-rx7 · 07-26-2013, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by 46Tbird

Holy shit, a thread about ricer lights goes four pages....

Theres alot that goes into kelvin and wattage that determines the specific light output.

**DirtyD** · 07-26-2013, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by 46Tbird

Holy shit, a thread about ricer lights goes four pages....

What's rice about them, Danny? The fact that yellow is the most functional color to be used to cut through fog? No one said anything about driving around with them on all the time like the rivers do.

Function > form. HIDs are amazing, when done properly and correctly. Sucks it too so long for them to finally overcome halogen bulbs.

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**JDMLOL** · 07-26-2013, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

Function > form. HIDs are amazing, when done properly and correctly. Sucks it too so long for them to finally overcome halogen bulbs.

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Yep. LED will be the next big thing. Low heat, low maintenance, not shock/vibration sensitive and long lasting. Aftermarket LED conversion kits are just starting to hit the market, they aren't quite there on output compared to 4300k xenon or factory LED lamps, but they're close.

**DirtyD** · 07-26-2013, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by JDMLOL

You don't think the concentration of heat will damage the housing, especially if it's a projector type? I had a buddy run the 50w and I think that's what caused his headlights to slowly yellow.

The 11-12 reflector housings are big enough to dissipate the small increase in heat, I'm pretty sure. I know my F150 headlights were.

As for projector setups, they have a much better venting system due to the decreased size of the housing, but Xenon bulbs also burn much cooler than halogen bulbs. A 50W Xenon bulbs burns about the same Fahrenheit temps as a 20-30W halogen since you are igniting an inert gas rather than heating a metal element through resistance which creates most of the heat.

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**Dan12GT** · 07-26-2013, 12:21 PM

I just bout a new 5k kit, lol an entire kit is cheaper than buying replacement bulbs from DDM. I'm happy with the output my 35w puts out. My wife already gripes at me how bright they are I just want to change the color a bit to more white then and less blue.

Oh an the stock housing is rated at 55w halogens, so 55w xenon should be fine.

**Dominic Toretto** · 04-01-2014, 03:31 PM

Thread from the dead. I'm a newb to electronics. What's the difference in 35W and 55W. Yes I know 20W for the inevitable smartass remarks lol

. Guessing one draws more power off the battery?

-Alex

**DirtyD** · 04-01-2014, 03:46 PM

As well as generates more heat.

**Dominic Toretto** · 04-01-2014, 03:48 PM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

As well as generates more heat.

I am thinking about ordering a set from DDM since they are cheap and can't really be upset if I eff anything up. The only harness option is for Dual in Dual out, what does that mean? And what is an Error eliminator?

-Alex