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09-12-2013, 07:24 PM
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Already shift at 7750 for 36,000 miles and 180 passes so no changes for me until I upgrade the springs
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09-12-2013, 08:06 PM
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Scared to race Steve
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Originally Posted by Yagermeister
People are seeing 20-40 HP and that IS attractive to me for $500 upgrade charge
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Over the boss?
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
I agree. A stick car shocks the tires MUCH harder and does it several times going down the track. With a big power stick car, the car is much more unsettled going down the track making it more of a challenge to ET well. A well running auto car is nothing more than just point and shoot. Which is great for a track car taking a lot of driver error out of the equation.
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09-12-2013, 08:37 PM
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Yes look around...Boss cars hover in the 420-430 range and CJ intake cars are 450-490 depending on fuel and throttle body and cai choice
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09-12-2013, 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Yagermeister
Yes look around...Boss cars hover in the 420-430 range and CJ intake cars are 450-490 depending on fuel and throttle body and cai choice
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I knew this mod had to have some merit.
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09-12-2013, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Yagermeister
Already shift at 7750 for 36,000 miles and 180 passes so no changes for me until I upgrade the springs
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Yeah, that's what I was wondering. I didn't remember you doing any valve train upgrades, but just asking anyways. It's going to be sweet.
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09-13-2013, 10:38 AM
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El Presidente
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brent is my hero
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09-13-2013, 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by DirtyD
Yeah, that's what I was wondering. I didn't remember you doing any valve train upgrades, but just asking anyways. It's going to be sweet.
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Cant wait Derek!
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brent is my hero
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Awww Nic...when I get rich I'll be your rich uncle in law three times removed
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09-13-2013, 12:31 PM
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Haven't had the plenum in our hands yet (or one on our dyno), what's the reported torque losses coming out to?
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09-13-2013, 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by TrueStreetTim
Haven't had the plenum in our hands yet (or one on our dyno), what's the reported torque losses coming out to?
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From what I think I remember seeing on SVTP, TQ losses are around the same as the Boss....I'll have to go back and find it....but I don't feel like it.
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09-13-2013, 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by DirtyD
From what I think I remember seeing on SVTP, TQ losses are around the same as the Boss....I'll have to go back and find it....but I don't feel like it. 
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Damn you, D!
I'm assuming torque losses beyond that of a BOSS? Basically an overgrown BOSS that picks up peak but drops TQ only more in both directions?
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09-13-2013, 12:57 PM
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I> /\/\
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Originally Posted by TrueStreetTim
Damn you, D!
I'm assuming torque losses beyond that of a BOSS? Basically an overgrown BOSS that picks up peak but drops TQ only more in both directions?
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Pretty much. There is no way it makes the power that Brent thinks it does. 50hp over what a Boss does? He's trying to say people are picking up 70hp with just an intake change in a NA platform. LOL, no way.
Only a turbo car will truly be able to benefit from the CJ intake.
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09-13-2013, 01:28 PM
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From what I understood, the intake only really picked up more power when spinning to the motor up to the 8100 mark like the CJ motor...which obviously can't be done on a stock GT.
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09-13-2013, 01:46 PM
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Scared to race Steve
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
Pretty much. There is no way it makes the power that Brent thinks it does. 50hp over what a Boss does? He's trying to say people are picking up 70hp with just an intake change in a NA platform. LOL, no way.
Only a turbo car will truly be able to benefit from the CJ intake.
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Yeah I was going to say that but I didn't want to start shit cause I know how sensitive people are when I disagree with them.
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
I agree. A stick car shocks the tires MUCH harder and does it several times going down the track. With a big power stick car, the car is much more unsettled going down the track making it more of a challenge to ET well. A well running auto car is nothing more than just point and shoot. Which is great for a track car taking a lot of driver error out of the equation.
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09-13-2013, 02:08 PM
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All the cars that have this intake are in the 450-490 range SAE with full boltons some with e85 some with 91/93. You pickup HP and TQ across the board and lose no more TQ than what the Boss already lost. The key is NOT the intake but rather the throttle body choice and the cold air tube and MAF...I chose the largest of both
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09-13-2013, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Yagermeister
All the cars that have this intake are in the 450-490 range SAE with full boltons some with e85 some with 91/93. You pickup HP and TQ across the board and lose no more TQ than what the Boss already lost. The key is NOT the intake but rather the throttle body choice and the cold air tube and MAF...I chose the largest of both 
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I'm interested in seeing your results. That kind of power with bolt ons and a stock longblock would be impressive. The problem with it is having to rev the hell out of the stock valvetrain. In a couple more years I bet we start seeing a lot of cars running the Boss intakes spinning them in the upper 7k range starting to have valve/springs issues.
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