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re-rx7 · 04-24-2013, 09:42 AM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

Don't be so harsh, Steve. You and I both know that Bama used to be one of the most prominent tuning companies when it came to Mustangs. Unfortunately, that isn't the same Bama that now operates under American Muscle.

AM & Bama outsell everyone else because of the "scam-ish" warranty they offer with the "#8 Guarantee" and the lifetime tunes. The lifetime tunes are awesome, but any tuner than has any idea what they are doing now knows that the #8 issue from tuning as been completely resolved. But a lot of people out there don't research and realize this, so they put trust in Bama nothing will happen. Great marketing strategy.

Not quite sure what your trying to say.

**DirtyD** · 04-24-2013, 12:34 AM

You can get tuned at HPP, Truestreet, Dallas Mustang, pretty much anywhere in DFW that will be willing to tune your car.

Even doing a remote tune (email tune) through companies such as AED, JPC Racing, Lund, and BBR have great results. Those types of tunes are typically cheaper, but don't yield as high of results as a dyno tune will.

**m_tyler_r** · 04-24-2013, 12:43 AM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

You can get tuned at HPP, Truestreet, Dallas Mustang, pretty much anywhere in DFW that will be willing to tune your car.

Even doing a remote tune (email tune) through companies such as AED, JPC Racing, Lund, and BBR have great results. Those types of tunes are typically cheaper, but don't yield as high of results as a dyno tune will.

thanks for the info... I don't have too much done to my engine so far so it shouldn't be too hard to find someone. where's the closest shop around Arlington and uta?

**DirtyD** · 04-24-2013, 07:35 AM

Originally Posted by m_tyler_r

thanks for the info... I don't have too much done to my engine so far so it shouldn't be too hard to find someone. where's the closest shop around Arlington and uta?

Gear heads in south Arlington off copper, just north of 287 is a decent shop. Not sure how many v6s they've done though. You would really have to contact a shop about getting a V6 tune.

But I can also recommend Justin Starkey at VMP Tuning, as I think he has experience in the 3.7 market as well. I know he did with the 4.0 and old 3.8L

**m_tyler_r** · 04-24-2013, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

Gear heads in south Arlington off copper, just north of 287 is a decent shop. Not sure how many v6s they've done though. You would really have to contact a shop about getting a V6 tune.

But I can also recommend Justin Starkey at VMP Tuning, as I think he has experience in the 3.7 market as well. I know he did with the 4.0 and old 3.8L

alright I'll try them

re-rx7 · 04-24-2013, 01:51 AM

I'm aware of past issues I'm also aware of issues other tuners have had as well. Once again they sell a lot more tuners then others so more issues are to be expected. Those problems were mainly a few years back and totaled about 2 -3 cars. Please post link of current problems or threads. Also read where stock 2011 5.0's were blowing #8 as well.

re-rx7 · 04-24-2013, 10:14 AM

Ehh like I said at this stage in the game with just a intake I'm not overly worried. I did my research honestly I feel that it just a matter of who you want to tune your car.

**DirtyD** · 04-24-2013, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by re-rx7

Not quite sure what your trying to say.

Originally Posted by re-rx7

Ehh like I said at this stage in the game with just a intake I'm not overly worried. I did my research honestly I feel that it just a matter of who you want to tune your car.

I only used the word scam-ish because AM/Bama sells so many people tunes that aren't forum bred enthusiasts like ourselves. They here they can make their car faster, find out where, and just buy. Bama is super conservative on their tunes. There is a guy in our group running the exact same mods at Midnight, but only making 406/370ish while Midnight makes 425/385. Don't get me wrong, a lot of it is personal choice on who you feel comfortable tuning your car. BUT, people need to know there are better, more power-efficient options for custom tunes than just Bama. But what they offer makes it "hella" enticing.

**Grandpa** · 04-24-2013, 10:29 AM

Originally Posted by re-rx7

Ehh like I said at this stage in the game with just a intake I'm not overly worried. I did my research honestly I feel that it just a matter of who you want to tune your car.

At this point I'm sure it will run fine. Most tuners now have "the fix" program which is why the number eight issues have all but disappeared. Of course, there will always be the occasional failure here and there, but they arent blowing up every week like they were in 2011. Bama tunes now are ultra conservative to insure they don't hurt anything anymore.

The latest trend with some of the bigger tuners is that they will no longer do datalogging tunes on the street and will only do live remote tuning in order to reduce any issues.

**DirtyD** · 04-24-2013, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by Steve

At this point I'm sure it will run fine. Most tuners now have "the fix" program which is why the number eight issues have all but disappeared. Of course, there will always be the occasional failure here and there, but they arent blowing up every week like they were in 2011. Bama tunes now are ultra conservative to insure they don't hurt anything anymore.

The latest trend with some of the bigger tuners is that they will no longer do datalogging tunes on the street and will only do live remote tuning in order to reduce any issues.

I'm pretty sure that Shaun will still continue his DL since that's what makes his tunes, and why people trust him so much. I just hope he doesn't get overwhelmed to the point of that not happening anymore.

When I spoke with Aaron at JPC, he said they do DL after the initial tune is written, only to fine tune.

I am considering Kevin very highly just because he is local, and can ride in the car with me, or even drive the car, so I can the true street experience.

**Grandpa** · 04-24-2013, 10:45 AM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

I'm pretty sure that Shaun will still continue his DL since that's what makes his tunes, and why people trust him so much. I just hope he doesn't get overwhelmed to the point of that not happening anymore.

When I spoke with Aaron at JPC, he said they do DL after the initial tune is written, only to fine tune.

I am considering Kevin very highly just because he is local, and can ride in the car with me, or even drive the car, so I can the true street experience.

The last time I spoke with Shaun, he would DL n/a tunes, but was considering no longer doing anything but live remotes for forced induction cars. Some other tuners are doing that completely.

Kevin really knows his stuff, so much so many tuners come to him for advice, especially in regards to anything e85 related. There is some big things in the works coming soon with Kevin, but you guys will have to wait to see.

**DirtyD** · 04-24-2013, 10:51 AM

Originally Posted by Steve

The last time I spoke with Shaun, he would DL n/a tunes, but was considering no longer doing anything but live remotes for forced induction cars. Some other tuners are doing that completely.

Kevin really knows his stuff, so much so many tuners come to him for advice, especially in regards to anything e85 related. There is some big things in the works coming soon with Kevin, but you guys will have to wait to see.

Yeah, and that is totally understandable with FI cars, because there is a lot more at stake.

As for Kevin, most of us know what he has in the works, unless that has changed.

I'm hoping to get with him before June is over, maybe even dyno day to get a tune done, if his software and everything makes it, and he can fit me into his schedule.

**Courtesy Flush** · 04-24-2013, 10:18 AM

I guess ill join the minority here in that i never had one issue with bama tunes.

**DirtyD** · 04-24-2013, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by Courtesy Flush

I guess ill join the minority here in that i never had one issue with bama tunes.

How long ago did you have them? I know some of the smaller issues such as the idle surges and stuff are hit and miss. There has only been one actual #8 failure under their watch with a customer, that I'm aware of, in which the they claim the tune wasn't found at fault. But I haven't dug deep enough to try and uncover other occurences, because it doesn't really matter to me. I know my 4 options for custom tuning will either be AED, JPC, Truestreet, or Kevin.

**Courtesy Flush** · 04-24-2013, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

How long ago did you have them? I know some of the smaller issues such as the idle surges and stuff are hit and miss. There has only been one actual #8 failure under their watch with a customer, that I'm aware of, in which the they claim the tune wasn't found at fault. But I haven't dug deep enough to try and uncover other occurences, because it doesn't really matter to me. I know my 4 options for custom tuning will either be AED, JPC, Truestreet, or Kevin.

Bought my tuner and intake combo w/ offroad pipe in January of 2011.
Took it to TS in October of 2011 for a custom tune, twas the first time the car had been on the dyno since parts were installed. Bama tune put down 431/411 STD.