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**GTOphil** · 04-21-2014, 03:57 PM

I only need/want 25 or so.

Where can y'all point for me LT's with hf cats that won't rape my bank account?

**DirtyD** · 04-21-2014, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by GTOphil

I only need/want 25 or so.

Where can y'all point for me LT's with hf cats that won't rape my bank account?

Long tubes delete the cats.

re-rx7 · 04-21-2014, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by GTOphil

I only need/want 25 or so.

Where can y'all point for me LT's with hf cats that won't rape my bank account?

HF catted X is your best bet.

Originally Posted by DirtyD

Brandon makes a pretty good list.

You could replace the deleting the cats with a Boss IM, but to get better gains, find a set of mini CJ cams if you can. Getting full VCT control is going to be a big gain.

You can also just do Boss IM, larger CAI (Steeda, Airraid, JLT, C&L) and then spray a 50-75 shot and still be safe. lol But that's not a permanent solution, just when you have something in the bottle. Doing a lighter driveshaft and clutch will help to reduce the drivetrain loss, essentially giving you back power and TQ to the wheels you had previously been losing.

Agree.

Originally Posted by DirtyD

Long tubes delete the cats.

this.

**BERT** · 04-21-2014, 04:39 PM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

Long tubes delete the cats.

Then what about the hi-flo catted shorty h pipes?

**Grandpa** · 04-21-2014, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by GTOphil

I only need/want 25 or so.

Where can y'all point for me LT's with hf cats that won't rape my bank account?

Reliable, cheap and fast. Pick two.

You get what you pay for in this hobby. Shortcuts or "cheap" almost always end up being more expensive than if you had done it right the first time.

My car makes 416rwhp/412tq with nothing more than a Lethal hpipe and a tune. It's not complicated.

Stay away from the Boss intake unless you get full bolt on supporting mods. It's a torque killer without them.

re-rx7 · 04-21-2014, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

Reliable, cheap and fast. Pick two.

Stay away from the Boss intake unless you get full bolt on supporting mods. It's a torque killer without them.

I actually agree.....

**GTOphil** · 04-21-2014, 04:38 PM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

Reliable, cheap and fast. Pick two.

You get what you pay for in this hobby. Shortcuts or "cheap" almost always end up being more expensive than if you had done it right the first time.

My car makes 416rwhp/412tq with nothing more than a Lethal hpipe and a tune. It's not complicated.

Stay away from the Boss intake unless you get full bolt on supporting mods. It's a torque killer without them.

Yep, been here done this...just not with this car.

I won't delete the cats so high flow is my best bet.

I'm thinking LT's w/high flows and a cai. And back to HPP for an updated tune.

What can y'all tell me about he cams? I don't know anything about those in this car.

*clutch isn't going to do much since I have an A6.

**BERT** · 04-21-2014, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by GTOphil

Yep, been here done this...just not with this car.

I won't delete the cats so high flow is my best bet.

I'm thinking LT's w/high flows and a cai. And back to HPP for an updated tune.

What can y'all tell me about he cams? I don't know anything about those in this car.

*clutch isn't going to do much since I have an A6.

I don't think cams are worth it

re-rx7 · 04-21-2014, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by GTOphil

Yep, been here done this...just not with this car.

I won't delete the cats so high flow is my best bet.

I'm thinking LT's w/high flows and a cai. And back to HPP for an updated tune.

What can y'all tell me about he cams? I don't know anything about those in this car.

*clutch isn't going to do much since I have an A6.

http://www.americanmuscle.com/slp-lo...dx-1112gt.html

Originally Posted by BERT

I don't think cams are worth it

They are if you find someone who knows what they are doing with the tune.

**Grandpa** · 04-21-2014, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by BERT

I don't think cams are worth it

I agree. Unless an owner is trying to squeeze every bit of horsepower out of a car, they definetly aren't worth it. Clearly he isn't trying to do that if he's wanting to keep the car completely legit with the cats. It sounds like he's just wanting a fun street car that is "set it and forget it".

That $2000 bucks for the cams would be better spend towards a blower kit.

**DirtyD** · 04-21-2014, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

I agree. Unless an owner is trying to squeeze every bit of horsepower out of a car, they definetly aren't worth it. Clearly he isn't trying to do that if he's wanting to keep the car completely legit with the cats. It sounds like he's just wanting a fun street car that is "set it and forget it".

That $2000 bucks for the cams would be better spend towards a blower kit.

Mini CJ exhaust cams can be had for under $400....

**Grandpa** · 04-21-2014, 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

You of all people know that comparing one car's dyno numbers to another's don't mean anything.

My point was that his goal of 400rw NA is very easily achievable withminimal mods.

Originally Posted by DirtyD

Mini CJ exhaust cams can be had for under $400....

There is more than just the cams that need to be purchased for that installation, but there is also the cost of installation itself which is very costly. Even still, it's minimal gains for a lot of money.

**Grandpa** · 04-21-2014, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by GTOphil

Yep, been here done this...just not with this car.

I won't delete the cats so high flow is my best bet.

I'm thinking LT's w/high flows and a cai. And back to HPP for an updated tune.

What can y'all tell me about he cams? I don't know anything about those in this car.

*clutch isn't going to do much since I have an A6.

Well, I will tell you this much. If you plan on boosting the car, you will need to ditch the cats at some point. The boosted set up will melt the cats, potentially clogging your exhaust and could blow your motor.

As far as the cams go, they aren't worth the money for the power return and tuning issues that come with them. The stock cams are very capable of making good power with boost.

**DirtyD** · 04-21-2014, 04:52 PM

Originally Posted by BERT

Then what about the hi-flo catted shorty h pipes?

Not sure what you are asking...but if you are talking about replacing the factory manifolds with shorties and high flow cats, I've heard people say that shorties compared to the factory manifolds aren't worth the price.

Originally Posted by BERT

I don't think cams are worth it

Comp cams aren't worth it, but the mini CJ exhaust cams for these cars are definitely worth it.

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

My car makes 416rwhp/412tq with nothing more than a Lethal hpipe and a tune. It's not complicated.

You of all people know that comparing one car's dyno numbers to another's don't mean anything.

**BERT** · 04-21-2014, 05:21 PM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

Not sure what you are asking...but if you are talking about replacing the factory manifolds with shorties and high flow cats, I've heard people say that shorties compared to the factory manifolds aren't worth the price.

Comp cams aren't worth it, but the mini CJ exhaust cams for these cars are definitely worth it.

You of all people know that comparing one car's dyno numbers to another's don't mean anything.

I can't agree with you. I'll just leave it at that