I'm not sure if the 5.0's will still need the programmer or not to upload the tunes. I don't know enough about it. I'm just glad I don't have to worry about that nonsense anymore since the V doesn't require a handheld. I never had any problems with mine, but then again I never had to mess with it since I never changed the tune after getting it tuned. All of the bricking and locking up nonsense sucks!
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