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**Bearded Banger** · 07-01-2013, 05:33 PM

Lol, and Kevin wins again.

**BLK2012GT** · 07-01-2013, 05:36 PM

So every car looks like that or that happen to one car and they happen to run torco. If that happens to everyone then wouldn't they be out of business and no performance shop would sell it?

**Grandpa** · 07-01-2013, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT

So every car looks like that or that happen to one car and they happen to run torco. If that happens to everyone then wouldn't they be out of business and no performance shop would sell it?

Not really, because it's an after thought for most people. If you run Torco, your motor will look like that in time. It's a by-product of Torco.

**Bearded Banger** · 07-01-2013, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT

So every car looks like that or that happen to one car and they happen to run torco. If that happens to everyone then wouldn't they be out of business and no performance shop would sell it?

Exactly what my plugs looked like when I mixed. Maybe not quite that bad, but pretty much. I had too at the time. No other choice.

**04sleeper** · 07-01-2013, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT

So every car looks like that or that happen to one car and they happen to run torco. If that happens to everyone then wouldn't they be out of business and no performance shop would sell it?

Every car will look like that with prolonged use of Torco. This is nothing new. It will turn your plugs, valves, heads and exhaust brown.

Over time, the MMT will build up in the cylinders and could lead to "Hot Spots" if and when Torco is not used.

It won't hurt my feelings if you don't want to run E85. I just want to help you understand there are drawbacks with anything.

**BLK2012GT** · 07-01-2013, 05:47 PM

Right and I appreciate everyone's input. I'm new to the e85 and running torco stuff to. I just want what's best for my engine and won't give me any problems. I tried the e85 and it was a problem. I'm going this route now and if I don't like it for whatever reason then I guess I have no choice then to switch back.

**Grandpa** · 07-01-2013, 05:55 PM

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT

Right and I appreciate everyone's input. I'm new to the e85 and running torco stuff to. I just want what's best for my engine and won't give me any problems. I tried the e85 and it was a problem. I'm going this route now and if I don't like it for whatever reason then I guess I have no choice then to switch back.

On Torco, I suggest changing your plugs and oil often(more so than usual). Especially after nights at the track where you are spraying it a lot. Torco was all the rage back when the Terminators first came out. I had a couple of Terminator friends who will go unnamed (haha!) that used Torco so much that one blew a couple of motors and another one who had a plug seize up in the head due to it being so corroded from not changing them often enough on Torco.

**46Tbird** · 07-01-2013, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by 04sleeper

It won't hurt my feelings if you don't want to run E85. I just want to help you understand there are drawbacks with anything.

Exactly.

You gotta change the oil a lot on E85 too, due to significant water absorption. I wouldn't go much further than 2k miles myself, but I'm sure the E85 pros will chime in on their thoughts as well.

This is a crankcase catch can after 100 miles of running E85 on a boosted Evo:

**46Tbird** · 07-01-2013, 06:36 PM

Every fuel option has upsides and downsides. E85 is an awesome alternative for cars that need a high octane rating and some street use. It has some maintenance issues and it's hard on fuel systems, although the '11+ Mustangs don't seem to have an issue with it.

I never like mixing fuels, not because it's going to mess up some secret 'formula' for maximum performance, but because it's just a pain in the fucking ass. Driving to the gas station, putting some 93 in the car, then going back home and putting the right amount of 110 in it... think I'll pass.

**Grandpa** · 07-01-2013, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by 46Tbird

Every fuel option has upsides and downsides. E85 is an awesome alternative for cars that need a high octane rating and some street use. It has some maintenance issues and it's hard on fuel systems, although the '11+ Mustangs don't seem to have an issue with it.

I never like mixing fuels, not because it's going to mess up some secret 'formula' for maximum performance, but because it's just a pain in the fucking ass. Driving to the gas station, putting some 93 in the car, then going back home and putting the right amount of 110 in it... think I'll pass.

I agree completely. If my car was a daily, I'd leave it on 93 for sure. And really, if someone is looking for a hassle free set up then a full out build car probably isn't for them anyways or at the most going up to the point where its as far as you go on 93 octane.

However, if you're looking at building a monster, there is always going to be some extra work and hoops to jump through. You gotta pay to play!