11-20-2012, 02:44 PM
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To heads or not to heads
You guys decide what I should do. My goal is to hit or be above 500 rwhp N/A. Next week my car is going in for a e-85 setup and tune. If that puts be close or at 500 rwhp. If I do the heads, the car will be down for a month cause they ship my heads off to get worked on. It's a pretty penny to do this but I know I will be well above the 500 mark. So lets take a vote on this.
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
I agree. A stick car shocks the tires MUCH harder and does it several times going down the track. With a big power stick car, the car is much more unsettled going down the track making it more of a challenge to ET well. A well running auto car is nothing more than just point and shoot. Which is great for a track car taking a lot of driver error out of the equation.
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11-20-2012, 02:58 PM
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Well, if the goal is to hit 500rw N/A, then doing the heads will certainly help you obtain that goal. If you have the funds for it, go for it.
You should be knocking on the door of it with a good E85 tune, but the heads will easily put you over the top of that. That thing is going to scream on the bottle!
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11-20-2012, 03:00 PM
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Especially with a 250 shot. 
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
I agree. A stick car shocks the tires MUCH harder and does it several times going down the track. With a big power stick car, the car is much more unsettled going down the track making it more of a challenge to ET well. A well running auto car is nothing more than just point and shoot. Which is great for a track car taking a lot of driver error out of the equation.
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11-20-2012, 03:53 PM
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^^ That was going to be my recommendation. Screw the heads and do a safe tune 75-100 shot. Probably for the same price if not cheaper than heads.
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11-20-2012, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT
Especially with a 250 shot. |
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11-20-2012, 04:08 PM
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Last I checked, JPC does exchange for their Stage 1 heads. It's what he used to get over 500 rwhp in NA on the shop car. Might look into that, it would cut the down time considerably.
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11-20-2012, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by downtime!
Last I checked, JPC does exchange for their Stage 1 heads. It's what he used to get over 500 rwhp in NA on the shop car. Might look into that, it would cut the down time considerably.
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Yeah but they want 2400 dollars for them. Clint is going to send my heads off somewhere in houston and they do all the work on them and send them back. Saves 900 dollars or so. And I don't drive my stang that much anyways.
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
I agree. A stick car shocks the tires MUCH harder and does it several times going down the track. With a big power stick car, the car is much more unsettled going down the track making it more of a challenge to ET well. A well running auto car is nothing more than just point and shoot. Which is great for a track car taking a lot of driver error out of the equation.
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11-20-2012, 04:15 PM
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Originally Posted by JDBishopArts
^^ That was going to be my recommendation. Screw the heads and do a safe tune 75-100 shot. Probably for the same price if not cheaper than heads.
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Already got nitrous on the car.
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
I agree. A stick car shocks the tires MUCH harder and does it several times going down the track. With a big power stick car, the car is much more unsettled going down the track making it more of a challenge to ET well. A well running auto car is nothing more than just point and shoot. Which is great for a track car taking a lot of driver error out of the equation.
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11-20-2012, 04:54 PM
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Something I find weird in the "coyote world" is that no one publishes flow data on their heads. Are you sure these Houston-ported heads will outflow the CNC'd Boss heads? They might be a good alternative but I have no idea what they cost.
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11-20-2012, 06:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 46Tbird
Something I find weird in the "coyote world" is that no one publishes flow data on their heads. Are you sure these Houston-ported heads will outflow the CNC'd Boss heads? They might be a good alternative but I have no idea what they cost.
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I don't know myself but clint at TS told me they flow better then any heads on the market. I'm sure he will chime in with more details.
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
I agree. A stick car shocks the tires MUCH harder and does it several times going down the track. With a big power stick car, the car is much more unsettled going down the track making it more of a challenge to ET well. A well running auto car is nothing more than just point and shoot. Which is great for a track car taking a lot of driver error out of the equation.
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11-21-2012, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT
I don't know myself but clint at TS told me they flow better then any heads on the market. I'm sure he will chime in with more details.
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Most head porters are going to not publish flow numbers because they are next to impossible to duplicate. Just like a dyno they are going to read diffrent based on weather, what kind of machine is used, is it STD, or SAE, ect. Exsample I have a set of heads on my 438ci small ford that Wilson manifolds ported for the previous owner. I bought the heads and the owner gave the me the flow numbers. 380CFM @ 850 lift. Incredible numbers, I had a local machine shop check valve job/ springs ect and for giggles had them flowed the heads. The heads only flowed 320cfm @850 lift 60cfm diffrence. So long story short, I sent heads in and intake (intake for a full port job) and asked them to flow heads. They flowed 376cfm@850 lift. Not all numbers are going to match
I guess the moral of my experience find you a porter you trust and stick with them. So my guy has ported some of the fastest mod motor cars racing today, He has ported over 40 sets of mod heads for my shop and I can tell you his work in fantastic.
Here are some 2012 GT500 heads that he just comepleted for me
  
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11-21-2012, 12:50 PM
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Is that the guy that would do my heads?
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
I agree. A stick car shocks the tires MUCH harder and does it several times going down the track. With a big power stick car, the car is much more unsettled going down the track making it more of a challenge to ET well. A well running auto car is nothing more than just point and shoot. Which is great for a track car taking a lot of driver error out of the equation.
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11-21-2012, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT
Is that the guy that would do my heads?
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You think?
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11-21-2012, 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Phuck Phace
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nope
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
I agree. A stick car shocks the tires MUCH harder and does it several times going down the track. With a big power stick car, the car is much more unsettled going down the track making it more of a challenge to ET well. A well running auto car is nothing more than just point and shoot. Which is great for a track car taking a lot of driver error out of the equation.
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11-21-2012, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Phuck Phace
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Not very often I suspect.. 
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