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Doug1227 10-05-2013 11:16 PM
New Best in the KB 2012!
 
Went out to Ennis today for the Camaro/Mustang grudge match. My previous bests in the 1/4 had been an 11.2@125. This week I converted the car to E85. I wasn't sure how much power it picked up because it was dyno'd on a different dyno than before. Using the same pulley, this morning I made my first pass.

1.62 60'
7.118@ 101.22 1/8th
[email protected] 1/4

I was pretty happy with that! Temps were in low 70's. It picked up a true 5mph and .3.

So then the cold front rolls in and temps drop into the high 50's. My next pass was another new best.

1.553 60'
6.804 @ 104.09 1/8th
[email protected] 1/4

DAYUUUMMMM!!!!!

I made one more pass just to back it up and ran:

1.585 60'
[email protected] 1/8th
10.678@ 131.95 1/4

Overall, I'm VERY pleased and can't believe how much faster it ran on the same pulley.

Slow Five-O 10-06-2013 12:24 AM
Awesome

Grandpa 10-06-2013 12:31 AM
Daaaamn, that's movin out! for a lil street car! Congrats!

re-rx7 10-06-2013 09:06 AM
Wow just WOw!

Darkhelmet22 10-06-2013 09:47 AM
Awesome!! What size tire you got in the back?

Doug1227 10-06-2013 12:01 PM
275/60-17 MT ET Street Drag Radial

Kaane 10-06-2013 12:40 PM
I am guessing it's Auto? What converter?

Midnight11 10-06-2013 12:47 PM
awesome doug!

Yagermeister 10-06-2013 01:04 PM
Great job Doug!!!

:driver:

Doug1227 10-06-2013 01:14 PM
Stock

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaane (Post 52454)
I am guessing it's Auto? What converter?

Doug1227 10-06-2013 04:13 PM

Dominic Toretto 10-06-2013 05:56 PM
Nice :)

-Alex

Rydawg1 10-06-2013 06:32 PM
nice job man!

Dominic Toretto 10-06-2013 06:57 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug1227 (Post 52459)
Stock
Girl transmission FTW!

-Alex

downtime! 10-06-2013 07:11 PM
Quick calculator work shows you to be making right at 750 Doug. E85 does work! LOL!

DirtyD 10-06-2013 08:31 PM
Congrats on the times, Doug! That's awesome!

Doug1227 10-06-2013 08:40 PM
Flywheel? That'd be about right. Around 630-640 at the wheels would be my guess.

Quote:
Originally Posted by downtime! (Post 52500)
Quick calculator work shows you to be making right at 750 Doug. E85 does work! LOL!

downtime! 10-06-2013 10:48 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug1227 (Post 52510)
Flywheel? That'd be about right. Around 630-640 at the wheels would be my guess.
Puts you well ahead of me now. After cleaning up the mess from the other shop, we ended up at 602, but at least I can drive it now. And she was only making 570 when I ran the 10.85, so maybe she'll be a bit faster on the 25th. We have the best track in the country rented, and usually have ridiculous D/A (last time it was -2100), so I'm hoping for a good run or two before I retire her completely.

downtime! 10-06-2013 10:56 PM
Just for fun, I plugged your numbers into the Dragtimes D/A calculator. You know it's good weather in Texas when the correction factor actually slows you down!

Correct your ET and MPH using the DA (Beta Testing)

Density Altitude: 553 feet above sea level

1/4 mile ET:10.512 seconds

1/4 mile trap speed: 134.47 MPH

Stock and Mildly Modified Naturally Aspirated Engines
10.468 @ 134.987 MPH

Extensively Modified Naturally Aspirated Engines
10.53 @ 134.427 MPH

Extensively Modified Supercharged and Turbocharged Engines
10.518 @ 134.405 MPH

Doug1227 10-06-2013 11:07 PM
I was curious what the DA was....just checked it myself as well. I had no idea it was that low. No wonder The times were so good! I'll probably never duplicate it! Lol!

Dominic Toretto 10-06-2013 11:32 PM
For some reason I can't find the thread or youtube video but, wasn't there a white NA car that was in the tens with barely any mods accept DRs? Downtime, you remember who that was right?

-Alex

BERT 10-06-2013 11:45 PM
Doug, what wheels are on your car?

Doug1227 10-07-2013 10:04 AM
Racestars 17/15 for the track
Euro trek UO02's 19x8.5/9.5 for the street

46Tbird 10-07-2013 10:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto (Post 52538)
For some reason I can't find the thread or youtube video but, wasn't there a white NA car that was in the tens with barely any mods accept DRs? Downtime, you remember who that was right?

-Alex
No, there isn't a white NA car that goes tens with "barely and mods." lol

There is a white NA car with some very effective mods that goes 10s though... and a gray one, too.

names are kdanner and wbt, they both post here

Dominic Toretto 10-07-2013 12:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 46Tbird (Post 52563)
No, there isn't a white NA car that goes tens with "barely and mods." lol

There is a white NA car with some very effective mods that goes 10s though... and a gray one, too.

names are kdanner and wbt, they both post here
That's right! But they aren't using any power adders. I don't recall what mods they are using though besides the CJIM and DRs.

-Alex

downtime! 10-07-2013 03:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto (Post 52584)
That's right! But they aren't using any power adders. I don't recall what mods they are using though besides the CJIM and DRs.

-Alex
CJIM, DR's, Air Raid CAI (IIRC) and a seriously well done, well sorted out tune. I'm also guessing that said tune might be just a tad lean for daily driving.

Dominic Toretto 10-07-2013 04:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by downtime! (Post 52601)
CJIM, DR's, Air Raid CAI (IIRC) and a seriously well done, well sorted out tune. I'm also guessing that said tune might be just a tad lean for daily driving.
Not to thread jack but, I consider that barely modded. Just an intake manifold, CAI and tune.

-Alex

DirtyD 10-07-2013 05:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto (Post 52607)
Not to thread jack but, I consider that barely modded. Just an intake manifold, CAI and tune.

-Alex
It's a full bolt-on car with bigs and littles. But with a CJ intake instead of a Boss, and a modified 2005-2010 4.6 Airraid intake.

Yagermeister 10-07-2013 05:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 46Tbird (Post 52563)
No, there isn't a white NA car that goes tens with "barely and mods." lol

There is a white NA car with some very effective mods that goes 10s though... and a gray one, too.

names are kdanner and wbt, they both post here
Spot on 46Tbird.

White one is Boss-powered auto owned by kdanner
Gray one is Coyote-powered auto owned by wbt

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto (Post 52584)
That's right! But they aren't using any power adders. I don't recall what mods they are using though besides the CJIM and DRs.

-Alex
What you said plus some weight reduction (but with some weight added back in for rollcage and other safety items), e85, longtubes, aluminum d/s, Detroit Locker rearend and Strange axles...on both

Quote:
Originally Posted by downtime! (Post 52601)
CJIM, DR's, Air Raid CAI (IIRC) and a seriously well done, well sorted out tune. I'm also guessing that said tune might be just a tad lean for daily driving.
Doubt their cars are too lean or dangerous (otherwise they wouldn't last long)...and they do drive both cars on the street

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto (Post 52607)
Not to thread jack but, I consider that barely modded. Just an intake manifold, CAI and tune.

-Alex
Quite a bit more than just what was stated but you are correct on no power adder, stock heads/cams...white car does have Boss heads and Boss cams since it is a Boss motor. Gray car is a Coyote so stock heads/cams/internals. It's all in the combo of parts and ESPECIALLY the tune

Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 52613)
It's a full bolt-on car with bigs and littles. But with a CJ intake instead of a Boss, and a modified 2005-2010 4.6 Airraid intake.
white car now has a 5" CJ CAI with 123mm MAF
gray car now has a pre-production FRPP CJ street CAI
I now have wbt's 2010 4.6 Airaid intake on my car while I wait for the production version of the FRPP CJ street CAI

DirtyD 10-07-2013 05:46 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Yagermeister (Post 52618)
Spot on 46Tbird.

White one is Boss-powered auto owned by kdanner
Gray one is Coyote-powered auto owned by wbt



What you said plus some weight reduction (but with some weight added back in for rollcage and other safety items), e85, longtubes, aluminum d/s, Detroit Locker rearend and Strange axles...on both



Doubt their cars are too lean or dangerous (otherwise they wouldn't last long)...and they do drive both cars on the street



Quite a bit more than just what was stated but you are correct on no power adder, stock heads/cams...white car does have Boss heads and Boss cams since it is a Boss motor. Gray car is a Coyote so stock heads/cams/internals. It's all in the combo of parts and ESPECIALLY the tune



white car now has a 5" CJ CAI with 123mm MAF
gray car now has a pre-production FRPP CJ street CAI
I now have wbt's 2010 4.6 Airaid intake on my car while I wait for the production version of the FRPP CJ street CAI
Cool.

So when do you get to head back out to resume your testing?

wbt 10-07-2013 05:48 PM
Here is a pic of the intake FRPP will be shipping soon:

http://i632.photobucket.com/albums/u...psdef60b3d.jpg

kdanner's car has been 10.6's, mine has been 10.8's. Both in non-optimal air conditions.

BTW - the tune is very safe. I use the same tune on the street that I use at the track.

downtime! 10-07-2013 05:53 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by wbt (Post 52620)
BTW - the tune is very safe. I use the same tune on the street that I use at the track.
It was just a guess. I know "lean" makes power, and I have erred on the wrong side of caution in the past, just to get a few more ponies out of them.

These new 5.0's just seem to rewrite most of the rules we learned along the way as far as how to tune goes. What worked good on a 2V or a 3V does not translate out well to a new 4V.

Ya'll seem to have a pretty good handle on it though! If I ever do ditch the blower, maybe I can con ya'll into a tune.

wbt 10-07-2013 06:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by downtime! (Post 52621)
It was just a guess. I know "lean" makes power, and I have erred on the wrong side of caution in the past, just to get a few more ponies out of them.

These new 5.0's just seem to rewrite most of the rules we learned along the way as far as how to tune goes. What worked good on a 2V or a 3V does not translate out well to a new 4V.

Ya'll seem to have a pretty good handle on it though! If I ever do ditch the blower, maybe I can con ya'll into a tune.
We do OK. I think there may be a little left in the tune still. Something we will work on over the next couple of months.

I do believe the white car will be in the 10.5-10.4 range very soon. Just need a good track and some good air to get there. Still running a stock Roadrunner setup with a CJ intake. Probably next year sometime a 2013 CJ engine combo (cams, pistons, over bore) will be put together for it and I expect low 10's.

Working on a few things with my car and hope to have it in the 10.6's in the not so distant future.

Yagermeister 10-07-2013 06:02 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 52619)
Cool.

So when do you get to head back out to resume your testing?
Hopefully this week :)

Dominic Toretto 10-07-2013 06:47 PM
With respect to the OP we can take this topic to another thread. Doug, great times :)

-Alex

Doug1227 10-08-2013 09:44 AM
Respect? What's THAT? LOL!

<--like Rodney Dangerfield....lmao

46Tbird 10-08-2013 09:50 AM
Sorry for the hijack. Congrats on the awesome times Doug, you got that thing rolling pretty good. :mexsmoke:

musclestang89 10-08-2013 01:12 PM
congrats on your new Doug, you have got it running pretty damn good.

Now those passes are faster than the vert now right?

Doug1227 10-08-2013 02:00 PM
Yep, that was my goal for this car. Newer, nicer, A/C, inspection, and FASTER than the 'vert. (10.8@127). Mission accomplished! Now, how about some NINES! LOL!

Grandpa 10-08-2013 02:01 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug1227 (Post 52759)
Yep, that was my goal for this car. Newer, nicer, A/C, inspection, and FASTER than the 'vert. (10.8@127). Mission accomplished! Now, how about some NINES! LOL!
Haha! It's a neverending process. Addiction is a mofo! Congrats again, Doug.


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