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Midnight11 08-18-2013 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 45576)
Yeah that's what I thought too unless their scale is off which I highly doubt it cause that's money for them. Plus they weighed me alone and it was correct on my weight.
Scale was off...

BLK2012GT 08-18-2013 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Midnight11 (Post 45578)
Scale was off...
I doubt it. Like I said I stood on it alone and it was correct on my weight.

Grandpa 08-18-2013 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 45565)
Yeah I took my car to a scrape iron yard and weighed my car and without me in it and around half a tank it weighed 3873 without me in it. So with me I'm at 4150. So Brent your car weighs 600 pounds less then mine. So right there I could pick up .6 in time in weight alone.
Man, that is crazy. I think you may have a crooked scrapyard or something. lol. You need to find another scale. There is no reason your car should be that much heavier than someone like Doug's car. His car is an auto, the KB and regular wheel setup and he's much lighter than you. The auto cars tend to be quite abit heavier. With your M6 and racing wheels I don't see how you can be that heavy.

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Originally Posted by Midnight11 (Post 45570)
I really don't see how yours weighs that much. Usually bases are lighter then premiums
I agree.

BLK2012GT 08-18-2013 12:34 PM
I've dealt with this company for years and my dad has dealt with them for 30 plus years. I know the owner very well so I highly doubt their scale is off. That's why I went their cause he let me do it for free and I figure its pretty damn accurate.

Grandpa 08-18-2013 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 45581)
I've dealt with this company for years and my dad has dealt with them for 30 plus years. I know the owner very well so I highly doubt their scale is off. That's why I went their cause he let me do it for free and I figure its pretty damn accurate.
Well then maybe next time you need to remove the dead body of the guy who sold you E85 from the trunk to lighten her up!

Dark Pony 08-18-2013 12:37 PM
Lol

BLK2012GT 08-18-2013 12:38 PM
Well I know I need to get my pig skinner. But then again I want to run my times full weight and not take shit out of my car.

Luke 08-18-2013 12:53 PM
Mine (premium) weighed in at 3785 with me in it, only weight reduction was the driveshaft and wheels

DirtyD 08-18-2013 01:47 PM
My car with me in it and the strut tower brace removed was 3790#, without me 3620#.

I also talked to wbt. I saw the car when we got there and knew I recognized it.

I saw him run a 10.96 I believe, at 121 I think. Even he was having issues with the track.

downtime! 08-18-2013 02:00 PM
Damn, makes me wonder how mine would have run now. My 10.85 came in D/A that was nearly identical to what ya'll had last night.

Before the KB install, my car weighed 3755 with me in it, and a little under half a tank of gas (scales at MIR). That was running Racestars and 275/60's and the stock 19's up front, full interior, nothing in the trunk. To lighten these cars up, you have to be dedicated, and get very creative. If you don't believe me, take the entire back seat out and then pick up all the pieces at once. It weighs next to nothing.

kdanner 08-18-2013 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 45566)
10.80's I think. His car is gutted inside. And he's only running 3.31's and a 4k stall.
Car has a roll bar, so no back seat. Passenger seat is removed at the track, nobody else ever does that, right? So, if that is what you call gutted, ok then. :emotions34:

Car ran a best of 10.92 at nearly 125 last night. 60' was 1.55-1.57 every pass. Track surface was awesome. If you guys think that place is bad, you should suffer at San Antonio sometime, you'll change your minds real quick. :sunot:

I do wonder about trap speeds at Ennis though. This car has trapped a hint above 126 at San Antonio and Houston, and has never run out of RPM in 3rd, but it did last night and I had to make it cross while upshifting to 4th. Only way it could run out of RPM would be to have some slippage, or it's trapping faster than before. Data doesn't show any slippage. I really think those trap speeds were inaccurate at least in the left lane, he never ran in the other side.

46Tbird 08-18-2013 03:21 PM
Good to meet you guys. That GT runs hard!

DirtyD 08-18-2013 03:21 PM
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Originally Posted by kdanner (Post 45613)
Car has a roll bar, so no back seat. Passenger seat is removed at the track, nobody else ever does that, right? So, if that is what you call gutted, ok then. :emotions34:

Car ran a best of 10.92 at nearly 125 last night. 60' was 1.55-1.57 every pass. Track surface was awesome. If you guys think that place is bad, you should suffer at San Antonio sometime, you'll change your minds real quick. :sunot:

I do wonder about trap speeds at Ennis though. This car has trapped a hint above 126 at San Antonio and Houston, and has never run out of RPM in 3rd, but it did last night and I had to make it cross while upshifting to 4th. Only way it could run out of RPM would be to have some slippage, or it's trapping faster than before. Data doesn't show any slippage. I really think those trap speeds were inaccurate at least in the left lane, he never ran in the other side.
Yeah, I notice the trap speeds seemed just a tad off for some of my runs.

kdanner 08-18-2013 03:28 PM
Yeah, good meeting ya'll. Wish that track was closer. Just too far and too much towing expense to go there often. We'll probably try Sealy, it's a little closer for us, not sure what to expect down there. I can be at Little River in a half hour, I don't go there because the traction is so bad, and now San Antonio has become just as bad.

Rebelracer568 08-18-2013 03:33 PM
Here some interesting info for yall. In houston last year my 12 with cai and bama race tune and 3.31 gear went 12.3 at 120mph. Jeffs car is capable of low 11's on good track

BLK2012GT 08-18-2013 04:59 PM
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Originally Posted by kdanner (Post 45613)
Car has a roll bar, so no back seat. Passenger seat is removed at the track, nobody else ever does that, right? So, if that is what you call gutted, ok then. :emotions34:

Car ran a best of 10.92 at nearly 125 last night. 60' was 1.55-1.57 every pass. Track surface was awesome. If you guys think that place is bad, you should suffer at San Antonio sometime, you'll change your minds real quick. :sunot:

I do wonder about trap speeds at Ennis though. This car has trapped a hint above 126 at San Antonio and Houston, and has never run out of RPM in 3rd, but it did last night and I had to make it cross while upshifting to 4th. Only way it could run out of RPM would be to have some slippage, or it's trapping faster than before. Data doesn't show any slippage. I really think those trap speeds were inaccurate at least in the left lane, he never ran in the other side.
Just took a glance inside real quick and only saw a passenger seat so the inside is empty so it looks gutted.

Oxford14Stang 08-18-2013 05:07 PM
My car 14' MT82 base model with sync full interior spare tire tools jack and all with half a tank and me in it weighed in at exactly 3800lbs . I run my car like I drive it everywhere. Full interior and a spare tire to bolt on if I get a flat lol I ran consistent 13.1s spinning first, and letting off in 2nd when car started to go sideways but had traction in 3rd and fourth. Thanks to Josh Bishop I tried his recommendation on the launch and got my 60' to consistent 2.1s from my 2.2s almost 2.3s on my stock 235/55/18s with a little more seat time (only made 3 passes, 4th pass I couldn't get 2nd in so babed it down) I think I could improve it more.

Oxford14Stang 08-18-2013 05:14 PM
I did however get Ant to excited and got him to miss third trying to power shift lol. Than ran him again we took off almost identical, I pulled 2nd gear, he missed 3rd once more and fourth :D what a night

wbt 08-18-2013 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 45566)
10.80's I think. His car is gutted inside. And he's only running 3.31's and a 4k stall.
I told you on s197 I was going to be there. Seems you are full of excuses. Not sure why. My car is far from gutted. As kdanner said, it has the passenger seat removed, rear seats removed, and trunk liners removed. Maybe ~65lbs. tops from that. The car is NHRA legal down to 10.00 which means all that equipment only adds weight to the car. It still has A/C, stereo, and is very streetable. Not anything close to being a race car.

Now we hear your car weighs 4,000+lbs. without any heavy superchargers, turbo kits, etc. It must be the heaviest non-power adder s197 on the planet. I would be horribly disappointed with the times and trap speeds your car ran based on the dyno numbers. This is why you shouldn't get wrapped up in racing dyno's. The track is what counts.

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Originally Posted by 46Tbird (Post 45616)
Good to meet you guys. That GT runs hard!
Thanks man! Enjoyed meeting and chatting with everyone. Now we aren't so bad in person are we? :P

Onto the track conditions.....this was my first time back to the Motorplex in 13 years. The facilities were in every bit as good of shape as they were in the late '90's and only second to Houston Raceway Park IMO. The track was fantastic all night. I never had a traction issue. The car hooked and was straight as an arrow down the entire track. I was highly impressed and will be back to run more. It's a long haul but worth it.

On the times.....I made quite a few changes to the car in the past few months and our goal was to work on the tune and any other issues we ran into. The car ran great in crappy air and it showed great potential for when the weather starts to cool in a couple of months.

Since last November, this car has run 10's every time it has been out in varying conditions. It has run 10's at every major track in Texas. I am super excited about that. No other street legal N/A stock long block car has done that. :head3:

BLK2012GT 08-18-2013 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by wbt (Post 45629)
I told you on s197 I was going to be there. Seems you are full of excuses. Not sure why. My car is far from gutted. As kdanner said, it has the passenger seat removed, rear seats removed, and trunk liners removed. Maybe ~65lbs. tops from that. The car is NHRA legal down to 10.00 which means all that equipment only adds weight to the car. It still has A/C, stereo, and is very streetable. Not anything close to being a race car.

Now we hear your car weighs 4,000+lbs. without any heavy superchargers, turbo kits, etc. It must be the heaviest non-power adder s197 on the planet. I would be horribly disappointed with the times and trap speeds your car ran based on the dyno numbers. This is why you shouldn't get wrapped up in racing dyno's. The track is what counts.



Thanks man! Enjoyed meeting and chatting with everyone. Now we aren't so bad in person are we? :P

Onto the track conditions.....this was my first time back to the Motorplex in 13 years. The facilities were in every bit as good of shape as they were in the late '90's and only second to Houston Raceway Park IMO. The track was fantastic all night. I never had a traction issue. The car hooked and was straight as an arrow down the entire track. I was highly impressed and will be back to run more. It's a long haul but worth it.

On the times.....I made quite a few changes to the car in the past few months and our goal was to work on the tune and any other issues we ran into. The car ran great in crappy air and it showed great potential for when the weather starts to cool in a couple of months.

Since last November, this car has run 10's every time it has been out in varying conditions. It has run 10's at every major track in Texas. I am super excited about that. No other street legal N/A stock long block car has done that. :head3:
You got me confuse with someone else cause you never told me shit on s197 about you being anywhere. And I think anyone can drive an auto down a track. How hard is it to push just a peddle? Usually people who get autos can't drive a stick. But enjoy your chick tranny. And never said my car was 4k plus. Said it was 3873 with everything in it and 4k with me in it. So learn how to read.

Midnight11 08-18-2013 07:56 PM
Good to meet you last night wbt and kdanner! Look forward for the info on the cobra jet. Cars a beast

wbt 08-18-2013 08:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 45634)
You got me confuse with someone else cause you never told me shit on s197 about you being anywhere. And I think anyone can drive an auto down a track. How hard is it to push just a peddle? Usually people who get autos can't drive a stick. But enjoy your chick tranny.
I don't think so....
http://www.s197forum.com/forum/showp...&postcount=135
http://www.s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103795

Driving a stick.....I suppose I didn't do that in my 2011.....


Anywho, get some tires on the car and hit the track again. No reason a 500WHP 2011+ 5.0 car should run 12's.

wbt 08-18-2013 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Midnight11 (Post 45635)
Good to meet you last night wbt and kdanner! Look forward for the info on the cobra jet. Cars a beast
You too and thanks!

Bearded Banger 08-18-2013 08:10 PM
Cross Talk tore 12.2 up all night foos!

Dark Pony 08-18-2013 08:12 PM
Jeff is picking more fights?

BLK2012GT 08-18-2013 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by wbt (Post 45636)
I don't think so....
http://www.s197forum.com/forum/showp...&postcount=135
http://www.s197forum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103795

Driving a stick.....I suppose I didn't do that in my 2011.....


Anywho, get some tires on the car and hit the track again. No reason a 500WHP 2011+ 5.0 car should run 12's.
Were you on slicks? Cause I wasn't. I even had the shop owner drive my car last night and he went 11.8 at 119 but only a 1.9 60ft. That was my first time down the track with that car since it got finish, and first time I went down in over ten years. I wasn't expecting much until I get better tires and slicks.

BLK2012GT 08-18-2013 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Dark Pony (Post 45639)
Jeff is picking more fights?
Nope but new guy thinks I'm someone else from s197 forums.

BLK2012GT 08-18-2013 08:15 PM
And I hardly ever get on that site so I never saw that post. You posted that on 7-19-13 so yeah I would had never seen that since I get on s197 maybe once a week.

Grandpa 08-18-2013 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Dark Pony (Post 45639)
Jeff is picking more fights?
I don't think he'll be picking anymore fights for awhile due to his performance last night after his ricer burnout on the rev-limiter and his 25 second pass. lol.

kdanner 08-18-2013 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 45640)
Were you on slicks?
That car hasn't had a slick on it in well over a year.

BLK2012GT 08-18-2013 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 45650)
I don't think he'll be picking anymore fights for awhile due to his performance last night after his ricer burnout on the rev-limiter and his 25 second pass. lol.
Yes cause that was my only pass of the night. If you think you can hang with me lets race next Friday at the coit meet for 100 dollars unless you still can't find fourth.

BLK2012GT 08-18-2013 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by kdanner (Post 45651)
That car hasn't had a slick on it in well over a year.
Was talking about on his '11 car.

Grandpa 08-18-2013 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 45654)
Yes cause that was my only pass of the night. If you think you can hang with me lets race next Friday at the coit meet for 100 dollars unless you still can't find fourth.
So much for you not street racing... :happy175:

BLK2012GT 08-18-2013 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 45656)
So much for you not street racing... :happy175:
How do you think I race kent and Nic?

So is that yes to the bet?

Grandpa 08-18-2013 09:55 PM
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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 45657)
How do you think I race kent and Nic?

So is that yes to the bet?
No. I don't race friends for money, always causes bad blood. Secondly, after seeing you drive, I don't want to be next to you racing until you get some more seat time. I don't want you crashing into me.

You have a fully built car and you are throwing your money around against my h pipe only car. :snoopfacepalm:

BLK2012GT 08-18-2013 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 45661)
No. I don't race friends for money, always causes bad blood. Secondly, after seeing you drive, I don't want to be next to you racing until you get some more seat time. I don't want you crashing into me.

You have a fully built car and you are throwing your money around against my h pipe only car. :snoopfacepalm:
Maybe you should stop talking shit about me and my car then if you aren't going to back it up. And my driving is just fine on the street. I just need better tires for the track.

wbt 08-18-2013 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 45641)
Nope but new guy thinks I'm someone else from s197 forums.
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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 45642)
And I hardly ever get on that site so I never saw that post. You posted that on 7-19-13 so yeah I would had never seen that since I get on s197 maybe once a week.
I got it right.

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 45655)
Was talking about on his '11 car.
My '11 had ET Streets on it. That car never made a pass on a full slick. As you can hear in the video traction was terrible with those tires. Even at that it ran 11.6 in 2'500' of air and dyno'd 432whp. No reason for your 500+whp car to be running 12's.

Less talk, more production. :waytogo:

BLK2012GT 08-18-2013 10:06 PM
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Originally Posted by wbt (Post 45665)
I got it right.



My '11 had ET Streets on it. That car never made a pass on a full slick. As you can hear in the video traction was terrible with those tires. Even at that it ran 11.6 in 2'500' of air and dyno'd 432whp. No reason for your 500+whp car to be running 12's.

Less talk, more production. :waytogo:
Your car was on better tires then me. And you're right a 500 rwhp car shouldn't run 12's. like I said before since people can't read. This is my first time at the 1/4 mile track with this car and first time for me in over 10 years. So I'm a bit rusty for track racing cause its completely different then me racing on the streets. With better tires and more seat time I will be running better times. But everyone has to remember I'm not going for records just my personal achievements. I want to run 10's NA full weight and run low 10's with nitrous. I'm far from those numbers but its a starting point so it will get better.

Dark Pony 08-18-2013 10:10 PM
Good Lord...take it easy...

This shit talking has no weight though. Take it to the track. A 60 punch on the highway is basically a dyno run. I want to see you guys actually run at the track.

Most guys had issues launching, unless they were running slicks or ET's. I could only pull a 1.9 60' out of my 305/35/20's, but then again I didn't want to blow an MT82.

Somebody please let Jeff borrow some slicks so we can end this!

Grandpa 08-18-2013 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 45662)
Maybe you should stop talking shit about me and my car then if you aren't going to back it up. And my driving is just fine on the street. I just need better tires for the track.
I didn't say I wouldn't race you, just won't do it for money. And after all the shit you talked, you can't tell anyone else to stop. I may have missed fourth, but I can do a proper burnout in the correct gear without bouncing it off the rev-limiter and I went just as fast you did with a near stock car. I'm down for a deadstop 1/8th mile race :mwah1:


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