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Grandpa 10-02-2012 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby (Post 6386)
Having a tremendous amount of experience installing everything from small 2.1 kb's all the way up to the newest prototype 4.2l kb, from a basic bare bones non ic vortech to an f1 with huge custom a/a intercooler, and everything in between. I will say that hands down, speaking in terms of bolt on kits that are not custom built, a procharger is the easiest blower to install. I am yet to install a paxton on a new 5.0, but from what I have seen the paxton is the worst performing centri kit on the new 5.0. The biggest advantage to procharger, is the ability to easily upgrade later to a larger blower for a small amount of money. I have seen a new 5.0 make over 800 rwhp using a p1 with a small intercooler sprayer on a terrible air conditions day. One main advantage to a centri with a/a intercooling is the ability to perform back to back hits without the major heat soak and power loss as with twin screws or centri's with a/w intercoolers.

I would be willing to go out on a limb and say that at least half the cases of blowers coming apart or troubles with blowers, are the owners not changing the oil in the headunit. It is required to change the oil every 6k miles using only the recommended oil. IMO there is 0 excuses to over spin a blower. If you are at or near the limits of the blower impeller speed, upgrade to the next size blower or stick to the same power.

Turbos are another great power adder, but with that you run into problems with heat, and troubles sometimes finding a good location to route the pipes. Turbo kits are almost always the most difficult power adder to install. Having built simple bolt on kits all the way to full on custom twin 1000+ rwhp cars, personally I am not a turbo fan. For all out power and drag, it is a great power adder.

I hope this brings a little insight to the thread, and answers a few questions some of you may have!

Did you type that correctly - 800rw out of P1SC? On a mod motor?

whiteboy 10-02-2012 11:55 PM

Steve i took this picture today of one being installed P1sc stage 2 kit

Going on the rollers in the AM

Agian i wish i could afford one.

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o...procharged.jpg

http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o.../201150pro.jpg

Grandpa 10-03-2012 12:02 AM

I laughed earlier in the thread at your comment wishing you could afford one because I know you can. Post up the numbers after you get your car dyno'd in the morning with that thing. :)

whiteboy 10-03-2012 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve (Post 6408)
I laughed earlier in the thread at your comment wishing you could afford one because I know you can. Post up the numbers after you get your car dyno'd in the morning with that thing. :)

I'm poor steve.

Phuck Phace 10-03-2012 12:21 AM

Ahhh very nice.

Grandpa 10-03-2012 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by whiteboy (Post 6410)
I'm poor steve.

Not hardly. lol.

whiteboy 10-03-2012 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve (Post 6415)
Not hardly. lol.

compared to you im dirt poor buddy.

Grandpa 10-03-2012 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by whiteboy (Post 6417)
compared to you im dirt poor buddy.

LOL, riiiight.

I may not be wealthy by monetary standards, but I've got an awesome wife, a beautiful little girl both whom are happy , healthy and that makes me the richest guy I know. :)

The money thing, lets just say we're working on it with something cool coming up. :)

46Tbird 10-03-2012 08:15 PM

Man, you guys must all be rich!

Toby 10-03-2012 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve (Post 6405)
Did you type that correctly - 800rw out of P1SC? On a mod motor?

yes 800 rwhp, but keep in mind it had a nitrous spray bar intercooler sprayer.. iats were probably in the 30's-40's which net huge power numbers, and he was running c16.

Grandpa 10-03-2012 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby (Post 6499)
yes 800 rwhp, but keep in mind it had a nitrous spray bar intercooler sprayer.. iats were probably in the 30's-40's which net huge power numbers, and he was running c16.

That makes a bit more sense then and even then it's still a lil hard to believe. The P1SC at max flows 1200cfm with a max impellar speed of 65krpms. It just can't physically flow that much air in a efficient manner. It would have a thumbnail up top and a wagon wheel on bottom. No WAY will that puny P1SC live very long under those conditions, especially on a street car. Time bomb waiting to happen in my opinion.

Toby 10-04-2012 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve (Post 6501)
That makes a bit more sense then and even then it's still a lil hard to believe. The P1SC at max flows 1200cfm with a max impellar speed of 65krpms. It just can't physically flow that much air in a efficient manner. It would have a thumbnail up top and a wagon wheel on bottom. No WAY will that puny P1SC live very long under those conditions, especially on a street car. Time bomb waiting to happen in my opinion.

Yes you are correct. He ended up killing cylinder 8 and had to sell the blower to pay for a new motor. Only had it at that level for maybe 100 miles. I believe he is selling the car now.

Phuck Phace 10-04-2012 10:26 PM

Who the fuck yall talkin about?

Grandpa 10-04-2012 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Phuck Phace (Post 6578)
Who the fuck yall talkin about?

I don't know who he is specifically talking about. I'm talking about the the blowers themselves. Blowers should not be overspun on a every day street car because it will not survive long, especially the P1SC.

whiteboy 10-05-2012 11:19 PM

Mine runs good.


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