I understand that. I'm just saying if/when i buy headers once/if i go turbo they're now pointless to me. I thought I said that before no?

Ok, just wanted to be clear. If a kit is still awhile off for you, then I see no problem getting another set of headers for your NA set up. You can find lots of people selling some used headers in nice condition for a reasonable price and run them until you switch.

I can understand why some might think that buying some longtubes may not worth the money for them if all they care about is just making more power. But you get more than more power, you also get a nice deeper tone in your exhaust note and pick a few top end MPH as well.

Is 10-15hp worth it? Maybe, maybe not. That's up to you and what is important to YOU.

My car made more than that with the stock headers.

Exactly what I plan to do. I'll buy used if I have cash on hand.. generally I let my credit tale care of the goodies lol

Hmm that's interesting. A freak? Lol

Not at all. Plenty of cars out there making more than mine did before the blower. 435 with stock exhaust, long tubes were worth exactly 10 on my car. If I wouldn't have gotten a sweet deal on them, they would never have made their way on to the car.

Jalal I believe Johnathan has his custom headers for sale :)

Yeah I saw that lol. Just $ seems to always be tight with me. Like I told Steve my credit normally buys the goodies and get paid off that way

U dynoed 435 with just a tune? U say stock exhaust.. not much left to bolt on

My car makes 416rw with nothing more than an H pipe and a tune.

Generous dyno.

JLT CAI, and Pypes muffler deletes are all I had on the car at the time. For the record, the car made 415 in that configuration and running the VMP canned tune. The custom tune brought it up to 435.

Downtime good numbers! Were your numbers SAE or STD?

SAE on Gearheads old dyno (or the original dyno, hell, the new one may be old too!).

And just for the record, for all you guys thinking about a blower of some sort, my car in N/A form was an absolute blast to drive everyday. Even with my bad shoulder, it could rip off mid 11's (my best was 11.60 at 119). You could jump in, twist the key and go anywhere at anytime. Blown cars can still do that, to an extent, but it's still not the same. Much more of an "effort" to road trip a blown car.