It was posted pretty much everywhere

my fox is pretty much stock :hidesbehindsofa:

Oh with out a doubt! Anyone that denies an auto is faster at the track is delusional. Jeff has a shifter, one piece ds, mcloud dual disc clutch with aluminum flywheel. Honestly the only mods to suspension he has done, is a set of springs, which arguably are hurting more then helping. He needs to address control arms, brackets, shocks and getting them dialed in before he tries to hit the track again. With the same tires he was running, him learning how to leave the line and those suspension mods will surprise everyone...

I can tell you from experience with wbt's manual car, when he finally put slicks on it instead of ET streets, it broke the driver side axle on the very first hit, the car didn't even move. So I'd be buying some axles if I were you. Do it up right, put 9" ends on the housing like mine, much nicer to deal with than c clip eliminators.

He was on stock springs. Gary changed them Friday

Oh really? well shit he was bone stock suspension then... man this guy needs some suspension!!! haha

I was on Sportlines and 19" MT's.....

With an auto car that does not instantly hit the tires with the drop of the clutch. Manual cars take a good driver, with a good setup to work right. Hince all the bolt on cars that nite running mid to bottom 12's at 116+ mph... That mph is good for mid 11's...

What everyone wants to drive is a personal choice. I personally wanted a Boss 302 and a stick is what you get. I like driving my car. I love the control of having a stick as well the potential headaches that can come with it. I have taken steps to make my car as safe and reliable as possible but let's face it, things break as long as you are pounding on your car. You make enough passes, or run enough times, something will break eventually.
We have nearly 50 launches on a track in this car and thankfully have not had any major problems. We have however, continued to make improvements and take safety measures as HP has increased.
Not taking sides, auto vs. manual, just making a point that it is all about preference and stick is what I enjoy driving.
Just ask the auto GTR and auto Trans Am that I politely schooled Saturday night. :)
If you have raced long enough, you know that there is always someone faster. That is why we do this...we keep going back for more HP. That is what keeps us going and keeps guys like TS in business :)
I know there are faster cars out there than mine, but I love what I have, and had a blast seeing what it would do on the 1/4 mile track. Each time I make a pass, I learn something else about my car. BTW, I only launch at 5K, not 6.

I am still running stock shocks, struts and OEM springs. ;)

But yeah, he needs to beef his driveline up more before dropping the hammer at 6K on slicks.

That is what it's all about, enjoying what you like to do. I didn't get a chance to see your car run but heard good things about it.

On the manual trans stuff, I just hate to see stuff break when it doesn't have to. It is relatively expensive to get the driveline up to snuff but makes for a safer, more reliable car. It also gives you room to grow with power.

Most build their cars from front back vs. back to front and hopefully with some shared experience everyone can enjoy their cars how they were meant to be.

This clip shows my driver side axle breaking on launch using a full slick:

The ET streets are the DOT slick, right? I've always heard that manuals need to go with something other than DRs, because they are too stiff to take the drivetrain shock.

A slick when wrinkle and collapse a bit, it absorbs the shock and will help preserve driveline parts with an aggressive manual trans launch. In my experience anyway.

This was the first time at the track with a full Hoosier bias ply slick slick on the car. 28x10x15. When I launched it hit the tires, they stuck, and the axle said, "I am getting a beer, this is BS.". First run of the night, first hit, then back on the trailer. :P

Prior to this I was using ET Street bias ply tires on 8" rims.

That's my understanding of it too.