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Dominic Toretto 09-15-2013 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Oxford14Stang (Post 50078)
other than that .... a badass pontiac G8 thats it.

ROFL, so that makes a Mustang what? A badass Ford Fiesta.

-Alex

Rebelracer568 09-15-2013 03:30 PM

I cant get a c6 to play with me :(

re-rx7 09-15-2013 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Rebelracer568 (Post 50086)
I cant get a c6 to play with me :(

same problem.

downtime! 09-15-2013 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto (Post 50067)
Ah I forgot your car is s/ced, that makes then.

-Alex

I did this when it was N/A. Now that it's blown, Z06's are fair game too. When the built engine goes in, ZR1's won't be shit either.

Grandpa 09-15-2013 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by downtime! (Post 50092)
I did this when it was N/A. Now that it's blown, Z06's are fair game too. When the built engine goes in, ZR1's won't be shit either.

Lmao!!!

46Tbird 09-15-2013 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by downtime! (Post 50034)
And just for the record, for all you guys thinking about a blower of some sort, my car in N/A form was an absolute blast to drive everyday. Even with my bad shoulder, it could rip off mid 11's (my best was 11.60 at 119). You could jump in, twist the key and go anywhere at anytime. Blown cars can still do that, to an extent, but it's still not the same. Much more of an "effort" to road trip a blown car.

Most of the blown 5.0s have spent WAY more time in a shop than on road trips, lol.

Oxford14Stang 09-15-2013 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Rebelracer568 (Post 50086)
I cant get a c6 to play with me :(

Yeah man I was surprised when he went for it. Matter of fact he started it lol. And well finished it.

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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto (Post 50083)
ROFL, so that makes a Mustang what? A badass Ford Fiesta.

-Alex

Damn you and your negativity lol

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Originally Posted by 46Tbird (Post 50100)
Most of the blown 5.0s have spent WAY more time in a shop than on road trips, lol.

Haha, this is so true.

kdanner 09-15-2013 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 46Tbird (Post 50100)
Most of the blown 5.0s have spent WAY more time in a shop than on road trips, lol.

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one thinking that.

downtime! 09-15-2013 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by 46Tbird (Post 50100)
Most of the blown 5.0s have spent WAY more time in a shop than on road trips, lol.

LOL! I resemble that comment! After seeing the times WBT and KDANNER are running, I might just put the KB up for sale and rejoin the N/A ranks.

Dominic Toretto 09-15-2013 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Oxford14Stang (Post 50102)
Damn you and your negativity lol

No negativity, I drive a hopped up Fiesta myself :)

-Alex

downtime! 09-15-2013 05:54 PM

In all fairness to HPP, mine ran nearly flawlessly from December to May of this year. What changed in the tune after that is anyones guess, but it changed dramatically. Wouldn't idle steady, had a miss running down the road at steady rpms, died at redlights. Hopefully, GH got all that mess worked out, will find out this week.

Dominic Toretto 09-15-2013 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by downtime! (Post 50107)
LOL! I resemble that comment! After seeing the times WBT and KDANNER are running, I might just put the KB up for sale and rejoin the N/A ranks.

I prefer NA cars myself.

-Alex

wbt 09-15-2013 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by downtime! (Post 50107)
LOL! I resemble that comment! After seeing the times WBT and KDANNER are running, I might just put the KB up for sale and rejoin the N/A ranks.

Do it! We did some shakedown passes with kdanner's car last night at Lonestar Motorsports Park in Sealy. Air was terrible but they did a good job with the track.

Best pass was:


First time the car has been to the strip in over a year. It should run mid 10's when the weather cools.

downtime! 09-15-2013 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by wbt (Post 50112)
Do it! We did some shakedown passes with kdanner's car last night at Lonestar Motorsports Park in Sealy. Air was terrible but they did a good job with the track.

Best pass was:


First time the car has been to the strip in over a year. It should run mid 10's when the weather cools.

I've been watching that video for about an hour now. It's very tempting. I will not be swapping over to the 6R80 though. That 1-2 shift bugs me badly. Still leaning towards a 4R70, but looking at the 4R100 and even the GM stuff right now.

Oxford14Stang 09-15-2013 06:07 PM

MT-82 for life!!!

downtime! 09-15-2013 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Oxford14Stang (Post 50116)
MT-82 for life!!!

I've had really good luck with mine. 36000 miles, several hundred lauches, no telling how many roll races in Mexico. I got the whine the first time I took it to Maryland two years ago, but even that has nearly completely gone away. The Barton shifter transmits a LOT of noise up through the stick, but other than that, it's held up really well. My reason for switching is consistency and the desire for better times. I think I can get 10.70's out of the car the way it is, but the mph shows that the car has some 10.40's in her. Not sure I can get her there rowing! LOL!

Oxford14Stang 09-15-2013 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by downtime! (Post 50118)
I've had really good luck with mine. 36000 miles, several hundred lauches, no telling how many roll races in Mexico. I got the whine the first time I took it to Maryland two years ago, but even that has nearly completely gone away. The Barton shifter transmits a LOT of noise up through the stick, but other than that, it's held up really well. My reason for switching is consistency and the desire for better times. I think I can get 10.70's out of the car the way it is, but the mph shows that the car has some 10.40's in her. Not sure I can get her there rowing! LOL!

That's good man. Most of the failures on these trans are due to driver error, but I'll stick to the stick. Mine isn't a track car. Just sees it here and there. I just want to hit 11's one day lol

Dominic Toretto 09-15-2013 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by wbt (Post 50112)
Do it! We did some shakedown passes with kdanner's car last night at Lonestar Motorsports Park in Sealy. Air was terrible but they did a good job with the track.

Best pass was:


First time the car has been to the strip in over a year. It should run mid 10's when the weather cools.

What are the mods to that car?

-Alex

Grandpa 09-15-2013 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 46Tbird (Post 50100)
Most of the blown 5.0s have spent WAY more time in a shop than on road trips, lol.

Yes, that is true for the cars making more than 650rw for sure. That comes down to tune issues more times than not with cars pushing the limits of the stock MAF. But there is many, many cars out there running 600-650 range that have stock like drivability from a solid tuner.

kdanner 09-15-2013 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto (Post 50129)
What are the mods to that car?

-Alex

No sissy power adders.
Boss powered, headers/CJ manifold
converter
3.31 gear
suspension, tires, etc.

Dominic Toretto 09-15-2013 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by kdanner (Post 50132)
No sissy power adders.
Boss powered, headers/CJ manifold
converter
3.31 gear
suspension, tires, etc.

Boss powered? Like pistons and crank or full longblock?

-Alex

Rebelracer568 09-15-2013 08:11 PM

Oxford mt82 for life????? Doesnt yours make a funny noise when shifting? lol.
Im going t56 if mine blows. Be better for road racing. Plus autos are way to go if you wanna go fast. Thats why im slow lol

kdanner 09-15-2013 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto (Post 50133)
Boss powered? Like pistons and crank or full longblock?

-Alex

I bought an entire Boss engine from a Ford dealer in January 2011, before the Boss cars actually shipped. It was cheap at the time. Sold my stock engine for good $, in the end the Boss upgrade cost me $1500. Only internal upgrade is I installed Triangle Speed's pump gears before installing the engine. What I didn't know at the time since the cars weren't out yet is that the Boss engines aren't any faster than a GT once they both have the Boss manifold and are tuned. But, the durability upgrade for that price was worth it anyway I think.

Grandpa 09-15-2013 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Rebelracer568 (Post 50134)
Plus autos are way to go if you wanna go fast.

Complete nonsense. You can go fast rowing gears if you practice enough and know your car well. The ONLY steadfast rule pertaining transmission choice is autos are the way to go if you are a bracket racer. Driver ability and suspension set ups are the keys to going fast at the track.

Oxford14Stang 09-15-2013 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 50137)
Complete nonsense. You can go fast rowing gears if you practice enough and know your car well. The ONLY steadfast rule pertaining transmission choice is autos are the way to go if you are a bracket racer. Driver ability and suspension set ups are the keys to going fast at the track.

I think what he meant Steve is that if you want to go fast you go auto due to consistency and the fact you can't shift faster than an auto lol

Dominic Toretto 09-15-2013 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Oxford14Stang (Post 50138)
I think what he meant Steve is that if you want to go fast you go auto due to consistency and the fact you can't shift faster than an auto lol

And you remove any possibility of human error in regards to shifting late, missed shift etc.

-Alex

Rebelracer568 09-15-2013 09:13 PM

Steve I can slam gears I race cars with clutchless jerico transmissions. The fastest blown mt82 that I know is 10.03 could be wrong. There alot of faster autos. Our trannys sucks. Autos hold more power and shift faster. Its not the 60's and 70's when autos where slow and manuals were faster.
There a reason the cobra jets are autos when in 68 there were almost all sticks

BLK2012GT 09-16-2013 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Rebelracer568 (Post 50144)
Steve I can slam gears I race cars with clutchless jerico transmissions. The fastest blown mt82 that I know is 10.03 could be wrong. There alot of faster autos. Our trannys sucks. Autos hold more power and shift faster. Its not the 60's and 70's when autos where slow and manuals were faster.
There a reason the cobra jets are autos when in 68 there were almost all sticks

Yes auto is the way to go for the track but it isn't as fun as the manual on the streets. So since my car see the streets 99% of the time the stick is the only way I will go.

JDMLOL 09-16-2013 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Oxford14Stang (Post 50116)
MT-82 for life!!!

They suck. Mine likes to grind in second with the the clutch through the floorboard.

downtime! 09-16-2013 01:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Rebelracer568 (Post 50144)
Steve I can slam gears I race cars with clutchless jerico transmissions. The fastest blown mt82 that I know is 10.03 could be wrong. There alot of faster autos. Our trannys sucks. Autos hold more power and shift faster. Its not the 60's and 70's when autos where slow and manuals were faster.
There a reason the cobra jets are autos when in 68 there were almost all sticks

The Cobra Jets are also NOT running the 6R80. They come with the good old C4 3 speed auto, straight out of the 60's and 70's. There's also a 2 speed option they're calling a C2, but I'm betting it's just an updated version of the old Powerglide.

OG Fox 09-16-2013 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 50171)
Yes auto is the way to go for the track but it isn't as fun as the manual on the streets. So since my car sits in the shop 99% of the time the stick is the only way I will go.

fixed that for you... :Big Laugh:

BLK2012GT 09-16-2013 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by OG Fox (Post 50186)
fixed that for you... :Big Laugh:

Dick it hasn't been to TS since I switch back to e85.

Oxford14Stang 09-16-2013 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by OG Fox (Post 50186)
fixed that for you... :Big Laugh:




Ahh haha that was bound to happen.

Oxford14Stang 09-16-2013 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 50188)
Dick it hasn't been to TS since I switch back to e85.

Damn off to a great start with the name calling. Let's just stop it here. Glad you got your car running right. Plan on making any trips to the track before Oct. 5? Your going to be competing arnt you?

BLK2012GT 09-16-2013 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Oxford14Stang (Post 50214)
Damn off to a great start with the name calling. Let's just stop it here. Glad you got your car running right. Plan on making any trips to the track before Oct. 5? Your going to be competing arnt you?

I'm not going to be there. Taking a family trip.

Oxford14Stang 09-16-2013 02:18 AM

Ah okay.

Grandpa 09-16-2013 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT (Post 50171)
Yes auto is the way to go for the track but it isn't as fun as the manual on the streets. So since my car see the streets 99% of the time the stick is the only way I will go.

I agree.

Rebelracer568 09-16-2013 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by downtime! (Post 50184)
The Cobra Jets are also NOT running the 6R80. They come with the good old C4 3 speed auto, straight out of the 60's and 70's. There's also a 2 speed option they're calling a C2, but I'm betting it's just an updated version of the old Powerglide.

Yea there using a c4 and a power glide just call it something weird. I was just utilizing the cobra jet to make a point the autos are faster on track than sticks. I drag race only manual cars cause I love the challenge and fun they offer. But if I wanna go fast especially with a power adder auto is the way to go. But ill stick to my jericos and mt82 till it blows. Heck I still have road race cars with t-5s in em. I worry everytime I race that it will break. I shattered every gear in one once. Think 500hp was to much lol

Yagermeister 09-16-2013 09:19 AM

I talked to the Cobra Jet engineers when I was at Watson Racing and they use a C3 prepared by Joel's on Joy a local race trans shop in MI. They chose it because of one main reason...quick access to replacement parts. When you are racing at the level the CJ's race on, you are generally checking/replacing/modifying parts on the car all the time and need quick access to parts. I'd venture to say most transmissions in 6-9sec cars (in the 1/4 mile) are autos of some sort due to consistency and needing two hands on the wheel :)

Rebelracer568 09-16-2013 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Yagermeister (Post 50275)
I talked to the Cobra Jet engineers when I was at Watson Racing and they use a C3 prepared by Joel's on Joy a local race trans shop in MI. They chose it because of one main reason...quick access to replacement parts. When you are racing at the level the CJ's race on, you are generally checking/replacing/modifying parts on the car all the time and need quick access to parts. I'd venture to say most transmissions in 6-9sec cars (in the 1/4 mile) are autos of some sort due to consistency and needing two hands on the wheel :)

Unless your a pro stock driver lol. But yes sir your are correct most cars in that range are autos. Seldon you see a car that quick that's a manual


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