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Selcouth 05-10-2013 10:42 PM
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Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 29460)
The more I hear about the coyote motor the more it seems like a kseries motor from Honda. It to can adjust timing up to 50degrees! Man I guess we should be thanking Honda for variable valve timing in a way.
Uh oh you just went there. :gayflag:

Yagermeister 05-16-2013 01:01 PM
One other issue with the lope idle from any tuner is that you should not have your cats still on the car as it will destroy them. Besides..who still has cats on their Mustang anyways??

Grandpa 05-16-2013 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Yagermeister (Post 30302)
One other issue with the lope idle from any tuner is that you should not have your cats still on the car as it will destroy them. Besides..who still has cats on their Mustang anyways??
I just saw your car in 5.0 Magazine. I looked past it a couple of times and didn't even click. Wasn't used to seeing your car on the stock wheels. lol

re-rx7 05-16-2013 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Selcouth (Post 29462)
Uh oh you just went there. :gayflag:
It's true.

46Tbird 05-16-2013 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 29460)
The more I hear about the coyote motor the more it seems like a kseries motor from Honda. It to can adjust timing up to 50degrees! Man I guess we should be thanking Honda for variable valve timing in a way.
Yeah....except that VTECH functions in a completely different way and Honda didn't invent or even conceive variable valve timing.

I see nothing wrong with a lope tune. You're just taking advantage of the inherent valvetrain adjustability to get a better sound out of the car. Frankly I can't stand the near-silent sewing machine idle on these cars. But the lope tunes also sound completely ridiculous, like a nascar stocker. Be nice to just get a 'burble tune' lmao.

re-rx7 05-16-2013 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 46Tbird (Post 30323)
Yeah....except that VTECH functions in a completely different way and Honda didn't invent or even conceive variable valve timing.

I see nothing wrong with a lope tune. You're just taking advantage of the inherent valvetrain adjustability to get a better sound out of the car. Frankly I can't stand the near-silent sewing machine idle on these cars. But the lope tunes also sound completely ridiculous, like a nascar stocker. Be nice to just get a 'burble tune' lmao.
It Vtec. Actuated by oil pressure. How are they different?

46Tbird 05-16-2013 05:24 PM
:snoopfacepalm:

I already explained that Honda didn't conceive or engineer the first variable valve technology, so WHY would Ford thank them for it?

Honda uses a secondary high lift, high duration lobe for each valve. Ford uses one lobe per valve and phases the camshaft as needed.

re-rx7 05-16-2013 06:44 PM
Honda can be considered the first true "can switching" system.

Yagermeister 05-16-2013 10:54 PM
Steve, I'm not used to seeing it on stock wheels either ;-)

Selcouth 05-17-2013 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 30306)
It's true.
Or not cause it was first used in the 19th century for steam engines or something similar to the process known as steam cutoff.

If you are talking automotive then you can thank FIAT who successfully patent one that was fully functional in the early 60's. However, if you are about to argue who first actually put it in a production car it wasn't Honda, but Alfa Romeo in the early 80's. Honda had nothing to do with the technology till the late 80's in the automotive world. But Ford owned that shit in the truck world. Give credit where it's due. :P

re-rx7 05-17-2013 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Selcouth (Post 30377)
Or not cause it was first used in the 19th century for steam engines or something similar to the process known as steam cutoff.

If you are talking automotive then you can thank FIAT who successfully patent one that was fully functional in the early 60's. However, if you are about to argue who first actually put it in a production car it wasn't Honda, but Alfa Romeo in the early 80's. Honda had nothing to do with the technology till the late 80's in the automotive world. But Ford owned that shit in the truck world. Give credit where it's due. :P
Jesus, look up the first company that introduced cam switching. Honda was the first. Its a fact,:welcome::hidesbehindsofa:

Grandpa 05-17-2013 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 30424)
Jesus, look up the first company that introduced cam switching. Honda was the first. Its a fact,:welcome::hidesbehindsofa:
Quit being an -

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-UZ11eR0DVp...-in-a-hole.jpg

re-rx7 05-17-2013 01:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve (Post 30425)
CLever.....:Violin:

46Tbird 05-17-2013 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 30424)
Jesus, look up the first company that introduced cam switching. Honda was the first. Its a fact,:welcome::hidesbehindsofa:
What is cam switching? Even Google doesn't know.

http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a2...itchingwtf.jpg

re-rx7 05-17-2013 05:59 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_valve_timing

"VTEC can be considered the first "cam switching" system and is also one of only a few currently in production."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VTEC

"A third option is to change the cam timing profile, of which Honda VTEC was the first successful commercial design for altering the profile in real-time."


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