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1andonlywhitie 03-11-2014 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Crimson600+HP (Post 66379)
Go into a dealer armed and you will get it more of your way.

Either armed with all the info OR if you don't know how the deal will go down at least be straight up and tell us what you're trying to do. As a car salesman it's infinitely frustrating to try and pull the info out of a customer where if they had just told me straight up what they wanted it would have been a faster and easier process..

I love the customers that say what they want, what they don't want and how much they want to spend (either overall or monthly). THOSE are the good customers...

re-rx7 03-11-2014 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by zsommer79 (Post 65574)
Yeah real big deal that's why so many people upgrade their suspension on the Raptor, cause it was so good from the factory. Do a search sometime for bent frames and wheel hop.

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Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 65575)
The OE Raptor suspension is good for cruising some washboard roads, with a few small jumps, i.e. maybe a few inches off the ground. If you really want to use the truck as it was designed, ditch the factory suspension.

I really want to see what that Raptor that Tanner Faust drove for Top Gear looked like after he was done thrashing on it...

YAll really think a truck from the factory would be designed to jump 10 ft jumps and such? The truck would be useless on regular hwy and gas mielage would suffer even more. I like the truck the way it is. Good road manners and the ability to do 99% of the stuff most people like to do.

re-rx7 03-11-2014 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto (Post 65573)
I think you are confused about what the generally accepted definition of ricer is. Especially since I was speaking about GTRs and Supras.

Don't want a cookie but, I'll take an internetz.

-Alex

I agree. If a 1500 whp supra is a ricer then the mustang is the gay.

zsommer79 03-11-2014 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 66390)
YAll really think a truck from the factory would be designed to jump 10 ft jumps and such? The truck would be useless on regular hwy and gas mielage would suffer even more. I like the truck the way it is. Good road manners and the ability to do 99% of the stuff most people like to do.

The frames weren't being bent by 10 ft jumps, G-ing out and bump stop placement were the cause. Bet I could bend the frame on a 2010-12 model going 30mph, Ford quietly added frame reinforcement 2013+. Funny thing is I upgraded my suspension and gas mileage wasn't affected and it actually rode better on the hwy.

re-rx7 03-11-2014 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by zsommer79 (Post 66393)
The frames weren't being bent by 10 ft jumps, G-ing out and bump stop placement were the cause. Bet I could bend the frame on a 2010-12 model going 30mph, Ford quietly added frame reinforcement 2013+. Funny thing is I upgraded my suspension and gas mileage wasn't affected and it actually rode better on the hwy.

Did you raise it any? Going 30 mph over what kind of terrain?

DirtyD 03-11-2014 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 66390)
YAll really think a truck from the factory would be designed to jump 10 ft jumps and such? The truck would be useless on regular hwy and gas mielage would suffer even more. I like the truck the way it is. Good road manners and the ability to do 99% of the stuff most people like to do.

I'm not even going to waste my time responding to this...

re-rx7 03-11-2014 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 66397)
I'm not even going to waste my time responding to this...

:fuckyea:

DirtyD 03-11-2014 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 66400)
:fuckyea:

LOL. I honestly completely forgot what I had said. Just reread it. Now I will contradict myself. So here is goes.

Ford didn't build the truck to be a straight highway/asphalt queen. But unfortunately, and I'm sure they knew that it would, that's what 90% of the Raptors are. Not many are used for what they were designed for. However, it wasn't designed to go out and compete in the Baja 1000 either. The suspension has it's limits, but they are more than a normal 4x4 F-150 can handle.

I think Ford entered the Raptor project to tackle a different challenge. They wanted to build something that had both street and offroad manners that the typical 4x4 F-150 couldn't handle. They probably didn't plan on it becoming such a huge hit, which is why they can't keep up with demand.

My comments earlier were a little exaggerated though. Definitely exaggerated. We know it can handle more than a couple of inches on a jump, but it depends on how it lands on really what it can withstand.

re-rx7 03-11-2014 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 66402)
LOL. I honestly completely forgot what I had said. Just reread it. Now I will contradict myself. So here is goes.

Ford didn't build the truck to be a straight highway/asphalt queen. But unfortunately, and I'm sure they knew that it would, that's what 90% of the Raptors are. Not many are used for what they were designed for. However, it wasn't designed to go out and compete in the Baja 1000 either. The suspension has it's limits, but they are more than a normal 4x4 F-150 can handle.

I think Ford entered the Raptor project to tackle a different challenge. They wanted to build something that had both street and offroad manners that the typical 4x4 F-150 couldn't handle. They probably didn't plan on it becoming such a huge hit, which is why they can't keep up with demand.

My comments earlier were a little exaggerated though. Definitely exaggerated. We know it can handle more than a couple of inches on a jump, but it depends on how it lands on really what it can withstand.

Great Post. I think back to that jackass jumping one at Rednecks with Paychecks. The truck competed in the BAja and finished I think its capable of that but Jumping and rock crawling not so much. S/n Ford snuck a Eco boost 2 into a Baja style race to test durabilty. They drove it there took out the Plexiglass ran it and the drove it home. :licklips:

zsommer79 03-11-2014 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 66394)
Did you raise it any? Going 30 mph over what kind of terrain?

Why would anyone raise a Raptor, its all about wheel travel and keeping your center of gravity down.

The terrain doesn't matter much, I could do it on a city street. All you need is a nice dip that preloads the hell out of the front and as it comes up out it basically acts like a lever slamming the rear end down hard enough to push the bumpstops into the frame.


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