That applies to every car guy. LEt me ask you this.....can you build a rotary or know how they work?

There is a reason not even Mazda uses that motor anymore.....

All of this. I've got 45k miles now and a 80k mile powertrain extended warranty. If things go right I can blow up the original engine and get a new one on the house before it's paid off.

LOL.

-Alex

I cant build a normal engine for that matter... but yes i know how a rotary works.

Hey man its cool, you're into novelty ideas. You and i like the same car minus the engine. Facts are those bitches are unreliable. Seals blow all the time, to many rpms on a poor design.

Im also a member of norotors.com and i've just seen swap after successful swap going into these cars and i think its just making the car better. the all aluminum lsx block is supposedly only 70lbs more than the rotary so no weight / handling is really lost there; its just more power and reliability.

but lets agree to disagree. Maybe its fun tearing down a rotary and rebuilding it around every 80k?

:handshake:

Engineers kill for 80lbs over the nose of a car FYI plus the engine is smaller an sits lower in the bay. I made 400whp in mine on stock ports for 40k miles and was still running when I sold it. Comp was 100+ on each rotor. Cooling and everything had been improved. It's not a car for the machanically retarded.

the car itself is mechanically retarded. but i would agree to successfully over time keep a car like that you need to be exceptional with it and put up with a lot of bullshit.

http://www.mr2turbz.com/signatures/sig4.jpg

all LSX motor rx7...

nuff said?

Yea...you need to look up rx3's and 2's. they are dippin into the low 7's.

ok great... not the same car... but the same all motor rx7 is daily drivable... anything with a rotary modified and rotary in general will have problems with longevity--i've never meant to say they weren't fast, just not fast AND RELIABLE.

If something is truly fast it's never gonna be truly reliable.

i dunno hoss... the all motor in the 9s seems decent enough for me. any faster your spraying and boosting and shit and even then i'd want to be doing that on pistons not rotards....

again we're going to have to agree to disagree, i still wouldn't own another rx7 unless it have an lsx in it.

i remember that fateful morning like yesturday... the week prior comp tested, rotors were 90 and 83 i think. Mazda tech was like yeah its a little low but you should still be good for awhile. turn the key... click...click....click...

all ads i've seen for rx7s and rx8s with 60k miles and up mention a rebuild :boxed:

anyway man, you got the tools and the know how play with rotors, i want something i dont have to fuck with too much. peeaceee

First mistake Mazda tech. Tells me right there you didn't work on your own crap and trusted the dealer. Big no no. Rotaries don't click click. Actually at low compression they start easier as the clearance are shrunk by being cold. Even during hot start with low compression they still start. Hell they will start on one rotor.

I've never owned a rotary. Only driven customer's mazdas with rotarys. I think they're cool in theory. But have always been told that its only a matter of time before they blow up? Oh well. I think they sound cool. Anyways, I bought my mustang with the intention of paying it off and keeping it for years. So we'll see how it works out. It is my daily driver along my my motorcycle. I try to ride as much as I can to keep from putting miles on the car. I used to have a tacoma, but between the mustang and harley the truck was getting neglected. So I sold it. When the weather is nice, I sometimes have a problem deciding between car or bike! #firstworldproblems lololol

Always wanted a Harley truck. 04 two time silver/black.

Shamu.

i've already told you i dont work on engines. If you cant trust an ase certified dude on whatever then wtf right? He worked at a dealer and had a shop by his house in crowley that he also worked on whatever out there. The engine had locked up as a seal had given out.. and low compression can also mean a seal weakening? thus click click.

wankle engines are fucking gay end of story:suicide:

Just clocked over 45k miles on my 2012. Enjoyed every mile of driving the car. Not afraid to drive it, especially since it is still within the factory powertrain warranty and covered by an extended warranty up to over 80k miles. I would plan to pay it off sooner but, I'd rather have cash on hand so I pay slightly more on my car payment and tuck the rest away in the piggy bank. Emergency money > less debt.

-Alex

I got mine with the cpo 100k warranty. Why buy new?

Only people that are baller status buy new and like getting hit with instant depreciation. I'll never buy a brand new car. Ever.

-Alex

I assume mine will retain the factory 5/60 that came with it when the original owner bought it?

If that's the case I have until Nov of 2016 and I'll never hit 60k by then. My car ('11 GT/CS) was bought in 11/11 and I bought it in 2/13 with 11k miles on it. Right now it still only has 15k on it.

I always say I'm gonna keep a car but that has never happened. I'm sure this will be gone by next January if not a little sooner

you get better interest rates on new cars. Plus I bought mine brad new because with any used sports car you take a gamble with how the previous owner treated the vehicle. Plus there were not really any used '13s when I was looking and I didn't want a 11-12. It's nice knowing exactly how a car has been treated since day one and knowing for sure that all maintenance has been done on time and correctly.

With good credit and car buying programs, you can get interest rates below 0.5% on new cars. That's free money to invest IMO. Combine with the peace of mind of a warranty for people who don't modify, I say why does anyone buy used anymore (unless you're looking for a beater).

Ouch. Turning that many new vehicles is an expensive list. Break the cycle and you are miles ahead.

Mine goes like this:
91 Ranger (paid off in 3 yrs)
2003 F150 cash - daughter is now driving that one
2014 Mustang (paid off 6 months)

If you have good credit, you'll get a good interest rate new or used. Buying a new car doesn't mean that you are getting a car in good condition.

Whether you buy new or used, a car is prone to break. If buying new meant so much towards vehicle condition, all manufacturers wouldn't need to offer a warranty. I've seen brand new cars break with less than 3,000 miles and I've seen used cars hold up very well. It's a gamble either way.

-Alex

If you plan on keeping it, what does it matter?

If you plan on keeping, why pay more than needed?

I guess it only makes sense to me that I would rather spend $25 instead of $30 on the same car, get the same warranty and still do the same mods anyway. Why pay thousands more for the same thing?

-Alex

Cause I wanted it brand new. Not slightly new

Okay.

-Alex

Lol OK dude whatever makes you feel better

Spending my money how I want does make me feel better. I'm sure that's mutual for everyone here :D.

-Alex

If I by a car to keep it, I'm going to be something that is new, less prone to breaking, has been around through enough cycles to work out the bugs, and has a warranty.

How can you not agree with that?

You know, I had a long drawn out explanaition but, it's not worth turning this thread into a bickering match. We will all enjoy what we bought, new or used.

-Alex

I'm not trying to bicker. You explanation might have helped me read into what you are trying to say better.

Fair enough.

Any performance car that I buy, I plan on modding at some point anyway. When I look at a car I see it as buying a lot of small parts, so if I plan to swap out, springs, struts, shocks, LCAs, intake, cam, pistons, rods etc etc, it doesn't make sense to pay $32k when I can spend $27, save money on mods or just have money WITH the same warranty :).

If you(not you but just in general) planned to keep the car bone stock, then yes I see your point.

-Alex

I buy a car because I have a little penis and it makes me feel more like a man to have something faster or more expensive than the next guy.

When something newer, bigger or faster comes out I have to have it, cuz...ya know...little penis.




That should about settle it. lol.

If you were paying cash for the car I would see where your logic makes since but they are talking financed cars. The payments wouldn't be that much cheaper between the prices you posted to be able to save up for that in a short term. So your logic seems a little flawed. Now if your paying cash then your math makes since I can't argue.

On a side note I have bought just as many used cars as I have new and have always had more issues with the used cars. You never know what the first person did to it and if it was a factory turd that always had issues and that was the reason they got rid of it. Sorry for the run on sentence, I didn't feel like stopping my train of thought.

Agreed.

-Alex

Sound logic. However, and it's been mentioned before, is the only flaw is you have no idea about the treatment of the car by the previous owner. Sure, you can replace some things quickly, and easier than other, but in the case of one of our member here, he traded in a car that was having issues with the motor, which he never took care of. And it's likely those were passed on to the next owner.

After seeing the condition a lot of the guys in here have traded their cars in, I will be very hesitant to buy another used sports car lol.