I like my 2.3 Roush TVS. It works well. I've gone as fast as 6.74 @ 103. I still have a lot of room to grow with this set up. The Coyote responds well with any blower. The whipple is a nice blower for sure as well as the Paxton.

The 3.4 or 4.0 would be more than enough to be honest. I know some of the 4.0 guys start to have cooling issues when pullying the 4.0 down. That is a lot of heat pump on a motor, but so badass!

Come on man, when have I want to get the same stuff as other people. Lol

I don't think these motor will have enough size to them to support the 4.5L. Hell, they just now came out with the 4.5 for the GT500 motor, and we are still waiting for Evo performance to release the numbers on their white GT500

A 4.0 would be the max I'd do on a coyote, 3.4 would be optimal.

The Roush units are awesome. Backed by Ford and put through some serious abuse for over 100,000 miles. Very, very dependable blowers.

LOL, I know and I get it. But maybe it's best this time to go with a tried and tested set up. Being the first or having a rare set up very rarely pays off in the end. Performance is what really matter at the end of the it. I'm sure you'd rather be enjoying your car than your car sitting in the shop sorting out untested issues.

Nah the coyote is plenty of engine. :gay:

Quite a bit longer than that actually. Robert Paxton McCulloch started designing superchargers back in the late 30's. His company kept building them for decades (famous noteables - Studebaker and Shelby, along the way). Granatelli joined the mix in the 60's and stayed with them through the 70's (bought the rights along the way) and finally sold off the supercharger line in '98. The basis for what we currently know as the SN2000 lineup of superchargers from them, can directly trace its lineage back to the SN60 first introduced in 1959. Pretty cool story really. I remember some truly legendary cars at Green Valley back in the day that used dual Paxtons and cross ram intakes on big block Chevy engines. All I could find on Google, but you get the idea - http://cdn2.bigcommerce.com/server40....1280.1280.jpg

That's fucking awesome looking.

Fucking face palm.......

Dude, the 4.5 is an absolutely huge blower.

I think a heavily built motor like yours would be the only way to make it effective, but if there are cooking issues with 4.0s, then I wonder how the 4.5 would fair.

Do you not see the smilie after my comment. I know it's a huge blower. I wouldn't buy it without doing some research first. And without whipple or other shops doing testing on them first. It's not like I'm doing this next week foo.

Are you kidding me??!!! You sir have obviously never installed any one of these kits. I have installed almost every brand offered for the new 5.0 and procharger hands down is the easiest to install. Procharger only requires you to cut one item to fit, the Paxton holy shit you have to cut every piece of plastic under the hood. Not to mention every one that has come through the shop the inlet is rubbing the good bad. You don't have that issue with procharger. How long does a belt replacement take on a Paxton? Procharger takes about 5-10 mins... I could go on and on..

I wouldn't expect you to say otherwise considering your shop carries Procharger but you personally haven't owned any of the above previously mentioned kits. I can understand why you like the Procharger units because they are a simple/easy install and that is a good thing considering how often they have to go and off cars. The entry level P1SC head unit is garbage. One of their own engineers told me that it's mess with less than stellar quality parts to keep the cost down.

To add to that, look how many Stangs are out there with Vortech/Paxtons with tons of miles on them. How many Procharger units do you ever hear of going 50k-100k miles on them? You don't, because they aren't designed to go that mileage in order to make customers upgrade on purpose. You're lucky to get 15-20k miles out of a Procharger with seals and bearings failing. That comes straight from a Procharger rep/engineer's mouth, so don't give me that facepalm crap. lol.

The problem with the bigger the blowers get, the more power it takes from the motor to turn them. In my opinion the 3.4 is perfect for a street 5.0 and capable of making a ton of power.

There is a reason you turn wrenches for a living because your reading comprehension sucks. lol. j/k


And who cares about having to cut a few easily replacable cheap plastic pieces. That is nothing. Stats are what counts. How many Paxton/Vortech cars are out there running DEEP into the nines with no tuning issues due to shit placement of the CAI/MAF? Tons. How many Prochargers? Practically none because most Procharger cars spend their time in the shop. lol.

Procharger has it down when it comes to the Vettes, not so much in the Mustang.

Again face palm. What does installing a blower have to do with its longevity?

Forget it. I'm not going to sit here and go back and forth with you. You have your opinion, I have mine.

Next time I see Clint I'm going to suggest to him that he considers a random drug testing practice among his employees because you are clearly on something. lol.

Go Whipple!!!!!!! Whipple FTW!!!!!!!!!

Oh your going to take this to personal blows? Ok Ill keep that in mind.

It's a joke. Geez. Lighten the fuck up.

I find 0 humor in your comment.

Then log off, go do something else and relax abit. No need to be pissy over trivial crap.

i have really no idea whats going on but it needs to be handled privately...

Yeah Steve and Toby. Go handle each other privately.:supergay::supergay:

Yeah, I'm boggled with it myself. Now I'm finding myself conflicted on the situation after his "I'll remember that" comment. I guess I shouldn't have him work on my brakes anytime soon. lol.

So back on topic -

Getting Jeff into some boost!

Could you not run the stock pulley with your current motor on E85 or would you have to change your entire set up?

Probably change the setup. 12.5:1 compression is a lot for boost.

In my opinion I think you would enjoy the boosted set up more. It's more of a set it and forget it deal rather than having to mess with bottles, fillin them up, pressures etc.

Boost is always there and it's silly fun on the street, especially with all that torque from a monster PD blower like that one from Whipple.

If you are happy that is fine. Bottom line is the KB just isn't as efficient as the Whipple or Roush kits.

An auto will do wonders for your car.

How much boost? I would like to see some video of said runs if it exists.

http://www.dfwmustangs.net/forums/sh...ad.php?t=20465

Scroll through the thread.

Look at post 59 for video

Thanks. Sounded good and put up a respectable time.
25lbs. of boost running a 4.2L blower.

That is significantly more to break into the 9's vs. what Justin@VMP did with a 2.3 Roush running less boost on a stock long block:

http://www.mustang50magazine.com/eve...t/viewall.html

What I read in his first post was he was at 15psi. But then again I'm kinda drunk right now. Lol

WTF happened to my post that I swore I replied to Jeff with?

Damn Tapatalk.

True, thankfully there should be a CAI with it here soon.

It's been a while and I am not sure where I read it but I recall some significant gains to be had with an improved intake setup and some enlarging of the throttle body area.

I believe there is a pulley size limitation as well which means you are going to be stuck at a certain level of boost.

This is where the Roush and Whipple designs shine.

Lol having owned Paxton, Procharger, And most other blowers. Procharger > everything else out there. Every Paxton kit I've had has been 100% junk.

Of course this isn't in reference to the Coyote setups. Just Procharger vs Paxton, isn't even a fair comparison IMO.

I will agree that the Prochargers work very well on the Vettes with anything a d1 and up. The P1sc just isnt great.

On mustangs its a different thing all together. There is a reason why there is so many more fast 5.0s running the Paxton and JT Vortech kits so its hard to argue that. In order to run the same ETs as the Paxton/vortech group the Procharger guys have to move up to a F head unit which some (not all) find it too obnoxious to run on a street car.

Search any of the major boards and you will find what i am saying is true. There are some fast procharger cars out there but its not the norm and almost everyone ofbthem had a bitch of a time to get the car running right.

My dad just bought a pro-charger for his 2V.

Me personally I love the look of a color matched whipple but love the power of a paxton