Originally Posted by saunupe1911 (Post 26572)

Yep don't mention the trade in until numbers are finalized. Just bought the wifey fully loaded V6 Charger. Great family car

Originally Posted by kn7671 (Post 26591)

It's not the trade that's the issue, it's that you told them you were paying cash for the difference before you got back to finance. In other words, you gave any leverage you had the minute you disclosed that information.

When you go to a stealership with the intention of paying cash, you have to play the game, and go through the motions all the way into the finance department just like 99% of their buyers do. If they ask how much you're putting down, just tell them $1k and then they will get you back to finance to complete the deal.

Once you're back in finance and work out any warranty or service plans at the finance table, then look at final finance number, then you turn the tables on them and tell them your paying cash for the remainder.

Originally Posted by G-Mann (Post 26623)

The games they are playing really sucks, be interesting to see if they sweeten the deal but business is business at the end of the day. If I could find a deal within a couple hundred of their deal I would go somewhere else but like I said business is business and if this is the best deal at the end of the day no need to punish yourself trying to punish them.

Good luck!!!

Originally Posted by JDBishopArts (Post 26626)

treat you like a king though the entire process I'd go somewhere else.

Originally Posted by GunsUp (Post 26409)

Been a while since I posted on the forum seeing as how facebook is just so incredibly epic. (Steve you're missing out)

I'll begin with my car, 2011 premium 6mt with a couple bolt ons just rolled 18k miles. This car has had its issues, I believe mostly due to the fact it is such a low build # they had not worked out all the bugs yet.

Since I purchased the car in October it has been serviced for the following.

Master cylinder x3
Slave cylinder x3
Pressure plate x2
Flywheel x1
AND IT STILL IS NOT RIGHT.

Since the car was modified & tuned by the previous owner Ford has owned up and so far as fixed everything under warranty but did flash my car back to a rich stock tune. (Runs like garbage at the moment).

So I decided with the 0% financing or the $2,500 cash back on a new 13 would be a good idea since I have no intention to pay a premium to get into a 15 when they are released.

I have tried to pull the lemon law on the car which I am eligible for even though the car was purchased used because it still had remaining factory warranty in addition to the 100k bumper to bumper I purchased. But Ford says "it's fixed" I told them I would see them again in 500-1k miles. (this has been the pattern)

Generally they have my car for about a week each month I have owned the car.

So back to gettting into a 13.

I was dealing with Mac Haik Ford of Desoto for the past couple of weeks.
Nic (Midnight11) sent me some info on a Recaro/Brembo 14 they had so the next day I went and drove about 5 they had on the lot.

Drove a 3.15 gear, 3.31, 3.55 (6mt & Auto) & another 3.73 which is also what my car has.

Decided I liked the 3.73.

So I left with an offer of $24,500 on my car and 30k +tt&l on theirs. (2013 premium) same car as mine but in black.

Well I gave it a couple of weeks and decided I wanted to go for it.

Tuesday I called my salesguy & told him I was on my way with the title in hand let's make a deal. (first mistake I was too enthusiastic)

I get there and he's pacing outside waiting for me to pull up (noone was at the dealership it looked like they needed to sell a car)

test drive it again blah blah blah ok let's go inside and sign the paperwork.

I kept the original offer they gave me 2 weeks ago (That took him by suprise & that offer went away like dust in the wind.

He comes back from his finance dept saying he can only give me 21k now for my car. I said "BULLLLLSHIT GO BACK AND GET MY MY 24.5 SO WE CAN MAKE A DEAL"

He comes back and tells me, "someone on the phone is interested in the black one" Yeah whatever that's bs sales tactic. So he makes an offer of 23,500 on my car. I say ok it's a deal.

Sticker on the 13 is 30,387
-23,500 for mine
=6,887 difference

BUT I pull out my checkbook and they see i'm trying to pay cash

THAT EQUALLS AN ADDITION 2,500 REBATE

So I only have to write a check out for 4,387 bucks. +TT&L

But I will be getting about 1,300 back on the warranty I purchased on my 11 so I feel i'm under my 5k limit I was trying to stay at.

Title on his desk, Checkbook out, pen ink on the paper & he comes back to tell me the guy on the phone just put a $5,000 deposit down on his debit card over the phone & that the black one is sold.

I chuckle, "You sold the black one...?"
dealer, "yes"
me, "YOU SOLD THE BLACK ONE?!?!"
dealer, "I didn't but someone did"
me, "YOUR DEALERSHIP FUCKING SOLD MY BLACK ONE??????"
dealer (head down like he wants to cry "yes"


I grabbed my paperwork & American Muscle magazine, shake his hand, & walk out dumbfounded by what just happened.

I know i'm missing some details I will fill in as the thread goes along but there is my rant for the week.

Still in the market for a 13/14 Black premium

Originally Posted by CMORENO302 (Post 27252)

I cussed out and got in the face of my sales man. After j had the car for the weekend. Monday went to credit union and had the buyers order and invoice faxed. I signed everything then headed to the dealer to remove all parts of old car. The sales man tried to get me to do a credit app! I told him no he doesn't need that the car is bought already and check is on your way. He then said, "well the car is not paid yet! Ill just get your keys and let you gon on your OLD car!" That nigga fucked up! He didn't know I'm from oak cliff! I replied by getting off my seat and in his face and tell him," ARE YOU THREATENING ME MOTHERFUCKER!?" His white ass sag back down on his chair and said," what are you talking about mr. Moreno? I showed his ass not to fuck with me!! I was LMFAO afterwards.
In the end I won. Got a new car and lowered my Internet rate by 2%. Like a BOSS!

Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 27260)

Ummm? He didnt know you were from OAk Cliff? :gr_guns: I dont understand?:yuno:

Originally Posted by CMORENO302 (Post 27252)

I cussed out and got in the face of my sales man. After j had the car for the weekend. Monday went to credit union and had the buyers order and invoice faxed. I signed everything then headed to the dealer to remove all parts of old car. The sales man tried to get me to do a credit app! I told him no he doesn't need that the car is bought already and check is on your way. He then said, "well the car is not paid yet! Ill just get your keys and let you gon on your OLD car!" That nigga fucked up! He didn't know I'm from oak cliff! I replied by getting off my seat and in his face and tell him," ARE YOU THREATENING ME MOTHERFUCKER!?" His white ass sag back down on his chair and said," what are you talking about mr. Moreno? I showed his ass not to fuck with me!! I was LMFAO afterwards.
In the end I won. Got a new car and lowered my Internet rate by 2%. Like a BOSS!

Originally Posted by Steve (Post 27273)

Toughguy... lmao.

Originally Posted by blownaltered (Post 27326)

And racist. The story would have been the same if he just said "he sat his punk ass down" but he had to through the "white ass" in there.

Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 27341)

I like crackers.

Originally Posted by Steve (Post 27343)

Crackers are great with Clam Chowder. Yummm.

Originally Posted by Steve (Post 27358)

David's car is too low for fat hoes. He hates fat girls.

Originally Posted by CMORENO302 (Post 27338)

Well sory to pop your bubbles! And in sure you where laughing when you saw or will see Django! #babyunderwear