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**Grandpa** · 02-10-2014, 01:54 PM

I don't think anyone goes into waiting on tables thinking yeah let's go earn $2 bucks an hour. I think those people tend to think that the service they provide they can maximize their earning potential by giving excellent service rather than a flat fee per hour to where bad waiters earn as much as the good ones.

**DirtyD** · 02-10-2014, 02:01 PM

No, most kids nowadays I feel go into waiting staff positions thinking they can do very minimal, subpar to okay service, and they still expect to see a tip, a nice one, at the end of the meal, because it's customary to tip well. It's the entitlement issue again. They think they deserve a tip no matter how bad they are.

**STROKD** · 02-10-2014, 03:10 PM

I tip very well unless I get ignored at the place... no refills, ask if food is ok or made properly, bring the food out ( i fucken hate when a runner brings my food and takes off) etc. I usually never go under 10 bit I tip my fav waiters at Ruths Chris and Abuelos almost 40 to 90 percent cause they bring me free drinks and shit without me even asking. I used to deliver pizzas in the day and we made min wage... it was like 8/hr or someshit in Cali. if i busted ass, risked a few tickets and got you your shit 10 min early, and got no tip, well, lets just say next time it was usually 20 minutes late. And I was the manager at night so I wouldnt comp your meal if it was cold, Id tell you to tip your gd driver next time you want your pizza on time. Lmfao.

The ones that always tipped got their pizzas about 5 minutes out of the oven...

**Dominic Toretto** · 02-10-2014, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by STROKD

I tip very well unless I get ignored at the place... no refills, ask if food is ok or made properly, bring the food out ( i fucken hate when a runner brings my food and takes off) etc. I usually never go under 10 bit I tip my fav waiters at Ruths Chris and Abuelos almost 40 to 90 percent cause they bring me free drinks and shit without me even asking. I used to deliver pizzas in the day and we made min wage... it was like 8/hr or someshit in Cali. if i busted ass, risked a few tickets and got you your shit 10 min early, and got no tip, well, lets just say next time it was usually 20 minutes late. And I was the manager at night so I wouldnt comp your meal if it was cold, Id tell you to tip your gd driver next time you want your pizza on time. Lmfao.

The ones that always tipped got their pizzas about 5 minutes out of the oven...

So basically, you justified treating customers like crap because, you didn't get money that you are not entitled to.

-Alex

**STROKD** · 02-10-2014, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto

So basically, you justified treating customers like crap because, you didn't get money that you are not entitled to.

-Alex

Yep, so go fuck yourself you cheap asshole. Hahahaha

**Dominic Toretto** · 02-10-2014, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by STROKD

Yep, so go fuck yourself you cheap asshole. Hahahaha

Nah, I'm good lol.

-Alex

**STROKD** · 02-10-2014, 03:35 PM

... besides DT, I didnt treat customers like crap, they just werent treated exceptionally. you yourself dont tip unless you get exceptional service. I didnt provide exceptional service when i knew I wasnt getting tipped... it goes both ways... these customers were 2 to 3 times a week, you remember the addresses where you got burned very quickly...

**DirtyD** · 02-10-2014, 03:50 PM

Some people just don't tip period. No matter if you were the best waiter/waitress they've ever had serve them, they won't tip.

**03MachMe** · 02-10-2014, 04:08 PM

The difference is the pay waiters receive from the restaurant basically all goes to taxes. So they only make what they make in tips. If they were to get paid a normal wage the price of your meals would jump way up. So when you don't tip the waiter makes NOTHING for serving you. At minimum you should tip 15% at sit down restaurants as that is the normal. I have had many friends work as waiters and know how hard it can be that is why I always tip around 20%, unless my service is far exceeding my expectations than I'll do 25-30.

**Dominic Toretto** · 02-10-2014, 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by 03MachMe

The difference is the pay waiters receive from the restaurant basically all goes to taxes. So they only make what they make in tips. If they were to get paid a normal wage the price of your meals would jump way up. So when you don't tip the waiter makes NOTHING for serving you.

That's an eye opener, I wasn't aware of that. That sucks.

This may seem weird but, I especially like tipping the new people. I think it helps set the pace for them to try hard. Even if they make some mistakes, I am inclined to tip them so that way they learn that effort makes a huge difference as it is already stressful enough I am sure.

-Alex

**03MachMe** · 02-10-2014, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto

That's an eye opener, I wasn't aware of that. That sucks.

-Alex

**Slow Five-O** · 02-10-2014, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by 03MachMe

The difference is the pay waiters receive from the restaurant basically all goes to taxes. So they only make what they make in tips. If they were to get paid a normal wage the price of your meals would jump way up. So when you don't tip the waiter makes NOTHING for serving you. At minimum you should tip 15% at sit down restaurants as that is the normal. I have had many friends work as waiters and know how hard it can be that is why I always tip around 20%, unless my service is far exceeding my expectations than I'll do 25-30.

This!

I waited tables and bartended for 4 years at chili's a about 5 years ago. I made 2.13/hr and it all went to taxes. I could work 40 or more hours and always has a 0.00 paycheck.

I can't believe how many people don't know to tip. You were comparing it to your job, think about doing your job as your customers and place of business expects you to and you make nothing? It happens way too often.

There's no way i could go back to it. I don't know how i held my tongue before when i was younger.

If you go to the same place regularly, you better believe those servers remember you. Even if you just tip fair. If you tip great they'll remember and you'll get better service every time. No / poor tip they remember and you'll get served appropriately.

I will say working there was the time of my life! The friends were awesome everybody knows everybody at all the bars and restaurants and the women are awesome.

Watch the movie "waiting". It is exactly like that minus doing shit to people's food. The games in the back, the parties the everything is spot on.

**GTOphil** · 02-10-2014, 04:41 PM

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto

I was having a conversation with a co-worker that used to work as a waitress. She said it is rude not to tip. I commented that I only feel inclined to tip, if the service was above exceptional. I thought that was the point of a tip, to give for exceedingly great service. Otherwise, they are just doing their job as agreed by the restaurant. I compared it to my job. If I come in and do just well enough, I don't expect a bonus so why should a waiter/waitress? Thoughts.

-Alex

Do you not tip delivery drives who bring you pizza? They live off of tips- like waitresses do. I went to one house once that was at least $300k and I got a tip of LESS than $1...

Waiters/waitresses make less than minimum wage and need those tips to survive. The ONLY time I've ever not left a tip was when I had a waiter that was overly rude, inconsiderate and whose service was worse than horrible- to the point of arguing with us about what we said we wanted. And that time- I wrote a note on the receipt so the manager would know why I left a $0 tip on a $150 meal (6 people).

**Dominic Toretto** · 02-10-2014, 05:10 PM

Originally Posted by GTOphil

Do you not tip delivery drives who bring you pizza? They live off of tips- like waitresses do. I went to one house once that was at least $300k and I got a tip of LESS than $1...

Oh I always tip delivery drivers on the very rare occasion that I order food for delivery. I only order delivery when the weather is unbareable outside. Gas prices are too high not to tip drivers and if they will make the trip from their restaurant to my place in terrible weather, they get nice tips. I'm not that big of an asshole lol.

-Alex

**GTOphil** · 02-10-2014, 04:47 PM

And for those who say they all think they "deserve" it and just do enough to get by and should "get better jobs" obviously have never been in the service industry. I think everybody needs that type of job at least once in their life to teach them the value of hard work, earning something and understanding who people really are.

I am a minister and I took a side job a few years back for some extra money. We didn't really "need" it, but it was nice. One revelation I had that changed how I thought for good was this:

1) When it's Sunday or I'm making a visit to the hospital, etc as "the minister" I get treated with respect and kindness.
2) When I was "just" a delivery guy- I got treated like absolute crap, as if I was "lower" than other people.

That's just not right and everybody should re-think how they treat people.