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Old 08-18-2013, 11:42 PM   #1
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You guys already gave me the car I've always wanted. I wanted a 500 rwhp NA with a big shot of nitrous. Now I have it I need to decide what I want to do with it. Right now I want it to be a full street car but will run decent at the track. I don't need a race car setup like Brent and WBT with the perfect suspension and shit taken out. I just want to have fun with it on the street. Cause right now we don't know what suspension I need cause I haven't used the nitrous yet at the track.
I'm nervous for you when you finally hit that bottle. That thing is going to be scary going down the track. You better bring an extra pair of shorts! haha.
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Old 08-19-2013, 12:12 AM   #2
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Wbt and me visited for a bit last night and seems to know his stuff pretty well. He know how to prep his car for the track, one light weigh seat, no interior, true big and little wheels, proper tires for his set up. This is just what I seen by walking by his car. Seem to know his car and what it took to make it preform

The difference in knowing your car and not is doing all your own work vs. paying someone else to do it for you. Also having experience racing and knowing how to put a good combination of parts together helps.

One that that floors me is how much money people waste on bright shiny objects. Just to name a few:

MMR head cooling mod
CAI's
Intake manifold heat shields
Any JLT product
...the list goes on.

I didn't run 10's the first time out with my car but I did run 11's with a tune, tires/wheels and the passenger seat removed. The car was bone stock down to the mufflers outside of those changes:


As my car sits, the only change I make to it between street and track are wheels/tires and I put the radio antenna back on. That's it. I use the same tune and everything else to drive with on the street.


For the car being gutted, I addressed that in this post: http://www.dfw50s.com/showpost.php?p...&postcount=299

I know you are not being confrontational but wanted to clear a few things up.

Thanks for stopping by to chat last night.

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Old 08-18-2013, 11:51 PM   #3
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With 520+ HP he should be mile per houring at 130 or better even if he is spinning.
To say his car should run 130+ is also uneducated.....

I have a Honda that hangs around our shop that makes 498fwhp... It traps 140mph in the 1/4 mile..... How do you figure that?

Well I will tell you, power to weight is everything in drag racing. Jeff claims his car weighs over 3850 with out him in the car. That would make it over 4000lb with him in the car going down the track. Weight will kill mph.....

My fox body back in the day made 400rwhp (1996) weighed 3196 with me in it and traped 128.8mph.

You have to quit taking the times the fast guys on the Internet are runing and thinking that a little higher dyno number should make a heavy car not set up to track with a new driver should run with the educated and prepared racer. Raw power will not over come weight and set up
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Old 08-19-2013, 05:52 AM   #4
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Originally Posted by TrueStreetMotorSports.com View Post
To say his car should run 130+ is also uneducated.....

I have a Honda that hangs around our shop that makes 498fwhp... It traps 140mph in the 1/4 mile..... How do you figure that?

Well I will tell you, power to weight is everything in drag racing. Jeff claims his car weighs over 3850 with out him in the car. That would make it over 4000lb with him in the car going down the track. Weight will kill mph.....

My fox body back in the day made 400rwhp (1996) weighed 3196 with me in it and traped 128.8mph.

You have to quit taking the times the fast guys on the Internet are runing and thinking that a little higher dyno number should make a heavy car not set up to track with a new driver should run with the educated and prepared racer. Raw power will not over come weight and set up
I'm curious as to what mph you think True Streets high dollar 525+HP built motor will get seeing that with tune and tires and an xpipe can get you 117-119mph in the exact same model of a mustang with the same weight (Jeff's car does not weigh what he thinks).
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:41 AM   #5
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I'm curious as to what mph you think True Streets high dollar 525+HP built motor will get seeing that with tune and tires and an xpipe can get you 117-119mph in the exact same model of a mustang with the same weight (Jeff's car does not weigh what he thinks).
Jeff claims he weigh it at 3878lb and that is not with Jeff in it. So if this is the case and Jeff gets in since the car will not drive it's self it is over 4000lb.

Now are you saying your friend is telling a lie? Jeff does a lot on the Internet I would chose to do differently but to say is flat out lying is pretty serious.
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Old 08-19-2013, 10:55 AM   #6
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Originally Posted by TrueStreetMotorSports.com View Post
Jeff claims he weigh it at 3878lb and that is not with Jeff in it. So if this is the case and Jeff gets in since the car will not drive it's self it is over 4000lb.

Now are you saying your friend is telling a lie? Jeff does a lot on the Internet I would chose to do differently but to say is flat out lying is pretty serious.
Base GTs weigh less than 3600 untouched, that's a fact. I've had a few of them on my own scales. You can say telling a lie, whatever else if you want. I'd just focus on there is absolutely no way that car weighs anywhere near what he claims unless he has added a whole lot of weight with useless crap like stereo shit.
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Old 08-19-2013, 11:38 AM   #7
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Originally Posted by TrueStreetMotorSports.com View Post
Jeff claims he weigh it at 3878lb and that is not with Jeff in it. So if this is the case and Jeff gets in since the car will not drive it's self it is over 4000lb.

Now are you saying your friend is telling a lie? Jeff does a lot on the Internet I would chose to do differently but to say is flat out lying is pretty serious.
Not saying my friend is lying but that he used a very inaccurate scale
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Old 08-18-2013, 11:20 PM   #8
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I know autos need drs and manuals need slicks...but how do all the manual True Street guys get down the track since they can't run slicks?
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Originally Posted by Yagermeister View Post
I know autos need drs and manuals need slicks...but how do all the manual True Street guys get down the track since they can't run slicks?

DOT bias is what I'd be on.
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Old 08-18-2013, 11:21 PM   #10
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So Jeff you have no data to learn from the next time you go to the track? Keep them next time :-)
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Kdanner types faster...
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Old 08-18-2013, 11:23 PM   #12
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See you all later this week...going to bed now to wake up to start the drive down from Detroit back to Dallas at 5am CST
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See you all later this week...going to bed now to wake up to start the drive down from Detroit back to Dallas at 5am CST
Be safe Dad.
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Old 08-18-2013, 11:27 PM   #15
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Dad says "Jeff, listen to kdanner and wbt more often and faster you will go!"
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