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**merlinmol** · 08-31-2013, 02:36 AM

Originally Posted by wbt

I have been completely unimpressed with the KB's on the 5.0. Roush and Whipple have produced the best positive displacement results which indicate they are much more efficient in design.

Paxton is king of the centri.

I wouldn't mind having a Paxton on my car some day. Maybe when I am done with the N/A stuff.

You forgot to put Magnuson in the list.

**wbt** · 08-31-2013, 02:51 AM

Originally Posted by downtime!

Yeah, me too. Mine only runs high 10's at 8 psi on the baby 2.8LC and a shitty tune. And don't get me started about the shop owners car who installed mine. He has to get by with a measly 900 hp and 8.80's out of his. KB's suck.

My N/A car runs 10.8's. Color me unimpressed.

Your shop owner isn't running 8's on a stock long block. Both the Paxton and Roush TVS have run 9's on stock long blocks. No KB kit on the 5.0 has come close to matching that.

Don't mistake what I said, my reference is for the 5.0 only. The KB's have proven themselves on the older 5.4 and 4.6 applications. Just not the case on the newer 5.0.

Originally Posted by merlinmol

You forgot to put Magnuson in the list.

Agreed. Their horrible intake design is the limitation on that kit.

**downtime!** · 08-31-2013, 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT

LOL you just want a smooth running car.

More than you can imagine!

**mavfan37** · 08-31-2013, 12:02 AM

Stangmaster just wants another caprisun!

**downtime!** · 08-31-2013, 11:09 AM

And I would agree about the Magnuson as well, except that I have a buddy in Michigan with a CJ clone he built in his garage, and for whatever reason, he chose the Magnuson kit (I think because it came in blue, to be honest). His car runs bottom 10's all day long in 2100-2300 D/A, and once he really get's it dialed in, mid 9's will be in his future. Again, overall, something might suck, but you can be sure that someone, somewhere, has figured out how to make it fast.

**Grandpa** · 08-31-2013, 01:47 PM

Any supercharger will work well enough on these cars to put them into the 10s. It really comes down to personal preference and budget.

Personally KB and Magnuson would be on the bottom of my list. KB has horrible customer service and Magnuson's support on their Mustang products is really subpar. While the Magnuson is capable of making decent power it is the most inefficient of the bunch requiring to be spun harder to make the same power the others do out of the box while still carrying the hefty price tag.

**downtime!** · 08-31-2013, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

Any supercharger will work well enough on these cars to put them into the 10s. It really comes down to personal preference and budget.

Personally KB and Magnuson would be on the bottom of my list. KB has horrible customer service and Magnuson's support on their Mustang products is really subpar. While the Magnuson is capable of making decent power it is the most inefficient of the bunch requiring to be spun harder to make the same power the others do out of the box while still carrying the hefty price tag.

I don't disagree with anything that's been said here, or in the other posts. I'm not a KB nutswinger by any means, and if the deal wouldn't have been so good (Installed, tuned, larger injectors, BAP, etc, for much less than the cost of the kit alone), there would be a Hellion kit on my car right now. My point is simply that it doesn't matter how bad you think something sucks, someone has figured out how to make it fast. It's all a matter of sticking with it, and figuring out what works. Would I buy a Magnacharger? No. Have I seen fast cars that use them? Definitely. Same for any of the blowers, as you said. Decent tuning will get you a 10 second street car out of any of them. My car is full weight (3755 with me in it when it was N/A, figure an extra 150 pounds now, so 3900 ready to race), full leather interior, no weight reduction at all other than removing the spare and jack, stock suspension except for a set of J&M lca's, stock MT82, stock 3.55 geared rear end, we bolted an out of the box base 2.8LC kit on it and it ran 131 mph in the quarter right from the get go. Now, seeing how bad the tune really was, maybe it's actually faster than that, maybe it's not. Doesn't matter to me, it wasn't built to be the fastest 5.0 around. It was built to make me smile when I drive it.

**Toby** · 08-31-2013, 02:06 PM

We just finished a procharger install. P1 10 lbs, headers, and our custom tune it made 594 473 in todays 100* heat and 20% humidity.. My personal preference

**downtime!** · 08-31-2013, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by Toby

We just finished a procharger install. P1 10 lbs, headers, and our custom tune it made 594 473 in todays 100* heat and 20% humidity.. My personal preference

I've always liked Procharger when it comes to centri's. I've had very good luck with them on both 2V and 3V cars, I can only imagine a well tuned 5.0 with one would be a lot of fun!

**Grandpa** · 08-31-2013, 02:22 PM

I wouldnt put a P1SC on my car if it were free. Those head units are absolute garbage.

**BLK2012GT** · 08-31-2013, 02:46 PM

I still want a whipple.

**Grandpa** · 08-31-2013, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT

I still want a whipple.

Do it!! That Whipple whine is so intoxicating!

**BLK2012GT** · 08-31-2013, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT

Do it!! That Whipple whine is so intoxicating!

I need to find out if they finally came out with a 4.5l for the coyote.

**Grandpa** · 08-31-2013, 06:09 PM

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT

I need to find out if they finally came out with a 4.5l for the coyote.

The 3.4 or 4.0 would be more than enough to be honest. I know some of the 4.0 guys start to have cooling issues when pullying the 4.0 down. That is a lot of heat pump on a motor, but so badass!

A302 · 08-31-2013, 06:07 PM

I like my 2.3 Roush TVS. It works well. I've gone as fast as 6.74 @ 103. I still have a lot of room to grow with this set up. The Coyote responds well with any blower. The whipple is a nice blower for sure as well as the Paxton.