DFW 5.0s Callout Lists

[kdanner]

Originally Posted by OG Fox i feel like im in science class.

LOL. I try to be scientific. I'm known to say "If you don't have data, you're a loser". That is a true statement in more than one way.

[Bearded Banger]

Originally Posted by kdanner Wait a minute. This is a manual base GT? I don't care if it is 100% untouched with stock wheels/tires and all, that car doesn't even weigh 3600 without driver. Get a new scale. Why are you running a radial tire, any radial tire, on a stick car, then complaining it won't hook? You put the wrong tire on! Here's the splits needed to go 10.80s from a 1.55 60': 60-3302.9409 60-6605.4026 60-10007.5251 60-13209.319 330-6602.4617 330-10004.5842 330-13206.3781 660-10002.1225 660-13203.9164 1000-13201.7939 Splits for sticks are quicker than that down low, automatics get to take advantage of a radial tire and are quicker downtrack. You've got at least 75 more RWHP according to you, so you should absolutely slaughter every single one of those numbers. So let's see em.

Ill choose answer C.

[BLK2012GT]

Originally Posted by Bearded Banger Ill choose answer C.

"Summer School"
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[Grandpa]

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT Why everyone saw what I ran. My best was a 12.3 at 117 mph with a 2.0 60ft

I'm pretty sure you went 114 and Clint went 119. Dale has the video so I'm sure we will find out for sure.

[TrueStreetMotorSports.com]

Originally Posted by Yagermeister Jeff, you keep using the excuse of seat time but guess what...a Really experienced driver drove your slow a$$ car too and barely got into the 11s. X275 power adder cars are only allowed a 275/60/15 Drag Radial so please don't use the "my tires aren't big enough" excuse if their tire works for 1000+ hp

Sorry Brent but this is a uneducated post, drag radials and a stick do not equal good 60ft times. Yes cars with 1200+ make them work but these cars have timers to apply power very smoothly and with a automatic it also have a degree of slip with converter. We also have the ablitly to kill timing on shifts, kill timng at rpms we are havign isues with trackion, kill timing on shifts, ramp timing in/out ect. So to compair Jeff's 6 speed Manuel to a automatic 1200hp drag radial car is not a fair comparison.

Jeff's car also does not have drag radials, his tires are more of a road race tire than a drag radial. Not good for dead stops,

A stock 5.0 on stock tires, a tune, and auto will run 12.33@114. Easy to drive and not to hard to put into drive and let it shift its way down the track. We did this in my wife's car at full weight 100% stock with nothing but our tune up in it.

A Manuel will take seat time, does not matter how much seat time i have in my drag radial car. This car has to be revved very high to make power with cams, ported heads and a small motor.

Reving a car to 5,000rpms and expected it to hook well on a tire that is a little better than a true street tire is just silly and I told Jeff this. Trying to run the car in these is silly and a waste of time if you are truly looking for performance.

So let's break down the slip that his car ran

11.8
60ft 1.91

Put slicks on and adjust that 60ft, every 100th on the 60ft is worth 200th on the other end (1/4 mile racing)

60ft 1.60
11.2 in same air.....

Not a record by any means but still a fast street car none the less

I witness some pretty bad driving last night by some and I witness some pretty awesome driving by others. It takes time to learn a car and know what it needs. Everyone should pull together and enjoy this hobby, all this shit talking is getting very old and will run off members if it continues. No one like to fight

Jeff you are going to have to take some poking after last night. It just comes with it, you need to go out with the right tire, practice practice practice till you are happy with your times and then make your call outs. Till then I would not make any call outs, shit talking , fights about what the car should do. JUST GO OUT AND LEARN YOUR CAR!!!

My 2 cents

[Yagermeister]

Just post the two little pieces of paper already

[BLK2012GT]

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT I'm pretty sure you went 114 and Clint went 119. Dale has the video so I'm sure we will find out for sure.

Sent you a text Foo

[BLK2012GT]

Originally Posted by Yagermeister Just post the two little pieces of paper already

For what purpose Brent?

[Yagermeister]

My uneducated post was simply to explain to Jeff that MANY other people of all sorts of power levels use small drag radial tires, True Street classes too, so the requirement of a slick is null and void.

Where's the time slips so we can compare the splits?

[TrueStreetMotorSports.com]

Originally Posted by Yagermeister My uneducated post was simply to explain to Jeff that MANY other people of all sorts of power levels use small drag radial tires, True Street classes too, so the requirement of a slick is null and void. Where's the time slips so we can compare the splits?

Again not correct,

You put your car in drive and let your tuner do all your shifting for you in your auto. A stick takes much more to make it work, (I drive a auto too)

Autos = drag radial
Manuel = slick

Promise this is not a pissing match but this is true

[Grandpa]

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT Sent you a text Foo

Ok, I stand corrected. Jeff went 117. Not bad at all.

[Yagermeister]

I'd throw myself over a cliff if I spent as much money as Jeff did to get an 11.8 no traction or 11.2 with traction out of my car NA when others have gone faster with a lot less (wbt, kdanner, CasperGT, shaun@aed, 04compgt, me) all stock heads and cams and internals.

With 520+ HP he should be mile per houring at 130 or better even if he is spinning.

[BLK2012GT]

Originally Posted by Yagermeister My uneducated post was simply to explain to Jeff that MANY other people of all sorts of power levels use small drag radial tires, True Street classes too, so the requirement of a slick is null and void. Where's the time slips so we can compare the splits?

I wasn't happy with the times so I just threw away the slips. Sorry.

[TrueStreetMotorSports.com]

Originally Posted by Yagermeister My uneducated post was simply to explain to Jeff that MANY other people of all sorts of power levels use small drag radial tires, True Street classes too, so the requirement of a slick is null and void. Where's the time slips so we can compare the splits?

Retread my long post......it takes a lot of tuning for us to get a 1200rwhp car down the track with a 275 drag radial. Not just floor it and hope the track is there

[Yagermeister]

I know autos need drs and manuals need slicks...but how do all the manual True Street guys get down the track since they can't run slicks?