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**Taxman** · 12-03-2012, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by Steve

ANY modded car sucks for a daily driver. lol. It's not IF it breaks on you, but when. I learned that in my early 20's doing the same shit you are now. It's not worth the headache and stress of a heavily modded daily. It's time for you to buy yourself a cheap cash car to drive everyday and play with the Stang on the weekends.

Originally Posted by Phuck Phace

I know, I may try and find a civic or ranger or something for 2-4K in a few weeks.

Fuck that! Buy you a cheap piece of shit beater that you ONLY drive if the Mustang is down. I daily drive the shit out of mine. If I wanted to drive a Honda, I would've bought one. I'm putting 16-18k miles a year on mine and if it pops, I've got a back up until I can get it fixed.

**BLK2012GT** · 12-03-2012, 06:44 PM

Karma's a bitch. Making fun of my shit being broken. At least mine was running right foo.

**Phuck Phace** · 12-03-2012, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT

Karma's a bitch. Making fun of my shit being broken. At least mine was running right foo.

That's what I get for shitting in your bushes Saturday night, damn.

**DirtyD** · 12-03-2012, 06:56 PM

Originally Posted by BLK2012GT

Karma's a bitch. Making fun of my shit being broken. At least mine was running right foo.

At least his is still running, foo.

**Grandpa** · 12-03-2012, 07:14 PM

Originally Posted by Taxman

Fuck that! Buy you a cheap piece of shit beater that you ONLY drive if the Mustang is down. I daily drive the shit out of mine. If I wanted to drive a Honda, I would've bought one. I'm putting 16-18k miles a year on mine and if it pops, I've got a back up until I can get it fixed.

I think your perspective on that would be abit different if your car was making 200rw more than it is now and your parts were as expensive. lol

**Taxman** · 12-03-2012, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by Steve

I think your perspective on that would be abit different if your car was making 200rw more than it is now and your parts were as expensive. lol

My perspective won't change when I get to that power level. I built mine with a plan to make reliable power on a stock bottom end. When I go bigger, I'll have a build that reflects that same principal but on a built bottom end.

**Grandpa** · 12-03-2012, 07:37 PM

Originally Posted by Taxman

My perspective won't change when I get to that power level. I built mine with a plan to make reliable power on a stock bottom end. When I go bigger, I'll have a build that reflects that same principal but on a built bottom end.

From that post, I suspect this is the most powerful car you have ever owned, am I correct?

"Built" or not, when you get to that power level parts fail more often. It's the nature of the beast. At the very least, when you have a high powered manual car you will have transmission and clutch issues. When you go to the next level of power, be it power, heat, vibration etc, you're always going to find the weak link in the car. Your car can be "built" all you want, but abad tank of gas or a hiccup in a tune destroy a "built" motor as quickly as a stock one.

**Taxman** · 12-03-2012, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by Steve

From that post, I suspect this is the most powerful car you have ever owned, am I correct?

"Built" or not, when you get to that power level parts fail more often. It's the nature of the beast. At the very least, when you have a high powered manual car you will have transmission and clutch issues. When you go to the next level of power, be it power, heat, vibration etc, you're always going to find the weak link in the car. Your car can be "built" all you want, but abad tank of gas or a hiccup in a tune destroy a "built" motor as quickly as a stock one.

Yeah this is my starting point in this. I get what you're saying and I understand it. Things happen, but you can plan for most things. That's why there's a back up. I'm just not a believer in building a car and rarely driving it. I get it for folks that are building a race car and that is its primary function... just not for drivers.

And as far as cost, you don't do it if you can't afford to replace it.

And I appreciate what y'all are saying but there's no way I'm driving a Camry to work. Lol. That's just me.

**Grandpa** · 12-03-2012, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by Taxman

Yeah this is my starting point in this. I get what you're saying and I understand it. Things happen, but you can plan for most things. That's why there's a back up. I'm just not a believer in building a car and rarely driving it. I get it for folks that are building a race car and that is its primary function... just not for drivers.

And as far as cost, you don't do it if you can't afford to replace it.

And I appreciate what y'all are saying but there's no way I'm driving a Camry to work. Lol. That's just me.

I completely understand what you are saying, but since you haven't gone through it yet it's easy to say what you would and wouldn't do.

There is always a trade off with high powered cars. At your power level, the car still has stock like manners and drivability. Until recently, 500 or so was about that limit, now with some newer cars a car (mustangs for the sake of this discussion) that number has been moved up to around the 600 mark.

But regardless of the make, model or how much money is thrown at a car, when you go through the process of building a high horsepower car it's very time consuming, expensive and trial and error on what is going to work and still have daily driver manners.

Eventually, at some point after tearing your car apart numerous times, tuning issues, blow a motor here,break a trans there, a dozen clutches, eventually you will get to a point in this hobby where you will appreciate having that "Camry" that will run and start everytime you turn the key, get good mileage, it's quiet not attracting every cop within a mile of you.. lol.

**Taxman** · 12-03-2012, 08:04 PM

Like I said, I get it. It's just not me. Much more likely to have a car like what I have now as a daily if I was going big.

I get what you're saying, and to say that one can't learn from other people isn't a fair assumption. I hear what you're saying. I'm just saying that's not me. People change, so I'm sure you're just chuckling away at your computer saying "lets see ya in five years" and maybe you're right. However at this point and looking forward, I just couldn't see myself having a 700-800 hp car sitting in my garage while I drove my beat up cavalier to the office. If that's you, hey more power to you. That's just not me.

blownaltered · 12-03-2012, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by Steve

I completely understand what you are saying, but since you haven't gone through it yet it's easy to say what you would and wouldn't do.

There is always a trade off with high powered cars. At your power level, the car still has stock like manners and drivability. Until recently, 500 or so was about that limit, now with some newer cars a car (mustangs for the sake of this discussion) that number has been moved up to around the 600 mark.

But regardless of the make, model or how much money is thrown at a car, when you go through the process of building a high horsepower car it's very time consuming, expensive and trial and error on what is going to work and still have daily driver manners.

Eventually, at some point after tearing your car apart numerous times, tuning issues, blow a motor here,break a trans there, a dozen clutches, eventually you will get to a point in this hobby where you will appreciate having that "Camry" that will run and start everytime you turn the key, get good mileage, it's quiet not attracting every cop within a mile of you.. lol.

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The old standard was 500, if you were around or below that you were usually ok. But once you got above you started having issues. God know I never went through that.

There is a breaking point on these new ones also and once you hit a certain power level you will always be working on them, it's always something. I loved driving my car on weekends but damn glad I had a daily driver.

**Phuck Phace** · 12-03-2012, 08:17 PM

Found the problem, vacuum leakage after the MAF.

**DirtyD** · 12-03-2012, 08:18 PM

I blew my struts and now I'm afraid to do anything more than an oil change and fuel refill. LOL

**DirtyD** · 12-03-2012, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by Phuck Phace

Found the problem, vacuum leakage after the MAF.

Woooo, fooooo!

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blownaltered · 12-03-2012, 08:24 PM

Originally Posted by Phuck Phace

Found the problem, vacuum leakage after the MAF.

That will do it. I found a cluster of vacuum leaks on my car a few weeks ago. My car is a draw through system so it didn't even act like it had a leak.