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Old 08-18-2013, 11:06 PM   #1
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Originally Posted by Yagermeister View Post
Jeff, you keep using the excuse of seat time but guess what...a Really experienced driver drove your slow a$$ car too and barely got into the 11s.

X275 power adder cars are only allowed a 275/60/15 Drag Radial so please don't use the "my tires aren't big enough" excuse if their tire works for 1000+ hp
Sorry Brent but this is a uneducated post, drag radials and a stick do not equal good 60ft times. Yes cars with 1200+ make them work but these cars have timers to apply power very smoothly and with a automatic it also have a degree of slip with converter. We also have the ablitly to kill timing on shifts, kill timng at rpms we are havign isues with trackion, kill timing on shifts, ramp timing in/out ect. So to compair Jeff's 6 speed Manuel to a automatic 1200hp drag radial car is not a fair comparison.

Jeff's car also does not have drag radials, his tires are more of a road race tire than a drag radial. Not good for dead stops,

A stock 5.0 on stock tires, a tune, and auto will run 12.33@114. Easy to drive and not to hard to put into drive and let it shift its way down the track. We did this in my wife's car at full weight 100% stock with nothing but our tune up in it.

A Manuel will take seat time, does not matter how much seat time i have in my drag radial car. This car has to be revved very high to make power with cams, ported heads and a small motor.

Reving a car to 5,000rpms and expected it to hook well on a tire that is a little better than a true street tire is just silly and I told Jeff this. Trying to run the car in these is silly and a waste of time if you are truly looking for performance.

So let's break down the slip that his car ran

11.8
60ft 1.91

Put slicks on and adjust that 60ft, every 100th on the 60ft is worth 200th on the other end (1/4 mile racing)

60ft 1.60
11.2 in same air.....

Not a record by any means but still a fast street car none the less

I witness some pretty bad driving last night by some and I witness some pretty awesome driving by others. It takes time to learn a car and know what it needs. Everyone should pull together and enjoy this hobby, all this shit talking is getting very old and will run off members if it continues. No one like to fight

Jeff you are going to have to take some poking after last night. It just comes with it, you need to go out with the right tire, practice practice practice till you are happy with your times and then make your call outs. Till then I would not make any call outs, shit talking , fights about what the car should do. JUST GO OUT AND LEARN YOUR CAR!!!

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Old 08-18-2013, 10:32 PM   #2
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Jeff says Dale listening to Brent too much while riding Clint

Jeff = pot calling kettle black
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Old 08-18-2013, 10:36 PM   #3
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Originally Posted by Yagermeister View Post
Jeff says Dale listening to Brent too much while riding Clint

Jeff = pot calling kettle black
How am I riding Clint. I said he is a great driver and couldn't cut a great 60ft time either. I'm not all over him like Dale is with you.
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Old 08-18-2013, 10:40 PM   #4
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Let's see a slip. You keep talking about that 60', with 525RWHP the splits from at least 330' on should be awesome, but are they?
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Old 08-18-2013, 10:41 PM   #5
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Let's see a slip. You keep talking about that 60', with 525RWHP the splits from at least 330' on should be awesome, but are they?
My 60ft was 2.0 don't know what the 330 mark was.
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Old 08-18-2013, 10:42 PM   #6
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Maybe those 500+ hp dyno numbers aren't very real as it seems your mph is quite low for all that horsepower. Maybe try tuning your car at the track like wbt, kdanner, me or Dale...all have been faster than your dyno queen with less horsepower...a lot less horsepower. Ask wbt and kdanner what suspension they used...oh wait damn near stock so don't use the suspension excuse either.

Excuses Jeff can't use:
1. Driver - Clint drove it too and he knows how to drive
2. Tires - x275 PA guys use 275/60/15 so he doesn't need bigger tires
3. Suspension - wbt has gone 10.87 with near stock suspension
4. Track prep - wbt went 10's the same night at the same track as Jeff
5. Trans - Jeff wanted a stick shift so if you miss a shift...it was your choice
6. Weight - autos weigh more, your base weighs less than most others
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Old 08-18-2013, 10:48 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by Yagermeister View Post
Maybe those 500+ dyno numbers aren't very real as it seems your mph is quite low for all that horsepower. Maybe try tuning your car at the track like wbt, kdanner, me or Dale...all have been faster than your dyno queen with less horsepower...a lot less horsepower. Ask wbt and kdanner what suspension they used...oh wait damn near stock so don't use the suspension excuse either.

Excuses Jeff can't use:
1. Driver - Clint drove it too and he knows how to drive
2. Tires - x275 PA guys use 275/60/15 so he doesn't need bigger tires
3. Suspension - wbt has gone 10.87 with near stock suspension
4. Track prep - wbt went 10's the same night at the same track as Jeff
5. Trans - Jeff wanted a stick shift so if you miss a shift...it was your choice
6. Weight - autos weigh more, your base weighs less than most others
My car weighs 3873 without me in it. So does it weigh less. And I was running on NTO5R. Not exactly the best drag radial like what the X275 guys use. And I'm not the only one that says the track prep wasn't all that great. The guys with slicks they were cutting decent 60 ft times like 1.5 but hell that's what most should do on drag radials.
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Old 08-18-2013, 10:52 PM   #8
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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT View Post
My car weighs 3873 without me in it. So does it weigh less. And I was running on NTO5R. Not exactly the best drag radial like what the X275 guys use. And I'm not the only one that says the track prep wasn't all that great. The guys with slicks they were cutting decent 60 ft times like 1.5 but hell that's what most should do on drag radials.
who bought the tires for your car? and who was complaining about track prep other than you?
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Originally Posted by BLK2012GT View Post
My car weighs 3873 without me in it. So does it weigh less. And I was running on NTO5R. Not exactly the best drag radial like what the X275 guys use. And I'm not the only one that says the track prep wasn't all that great. The guys with slicks they were cutting decent 60 ft times like 1.5 but hell that's what most should do on drag radials.
I was running 275/60/15 drag radials and cutting 1.5 60' times all night. That is one of the best track surfaces I have run on anywhere.
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I was running 275/60/15 drag radials and cutting 1.5 60' times all night. That is one of the best track surfaces I have run on anywhere.
Well you're the only one I've seen that said that. But I'm just going off what I heard from people last night that was racing and on a different mustang website that race too. So I guess they were wrong. My bad.
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Well you're the only one I've seen that said that. But I'm just going off what I heard from people last night that was racing and on a different mustang website that race too. So I guess they were wrong. My bad.
You must be spoiled and never run on a really shitty track. Come down this way and I can point you directly to several. You will start realizing how good last night's track really was.
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I got the beer and the popcorn
Shit I've been drinking since I got back home. This is amusing and fun. Some of these guys act llke this is life. Pretty sad.
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Shit I've been drinking since I got back home. This is amusing and fun. Some of these guys act llke this is life. Pretty sad.
It seems like that is you. You are the one getting defensive and throwing insults
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It seems like that is you. You are the one getting defensive and throwing insults
All in fun. I'm watching beerfest and doing this. It's a sunday night so its kinda boring.
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