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05-17-2014, 11:13 PM
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Stock air box and headers? Numbers seem pretty low for that boost so I can imagine the timing is extremely conservative.
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05-18-2014, 09:03 AM
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I'm not taking anything personally. I just don't think you're right. I had beat C6 Z's when I was N/A. I don't believe I'll get 2 car lengths put on me. If i do, so be it.
KB's don't have an air box. They have 4.5" ram air tube. The timing is very conservative. People who claim that it's low for what I have, don't realize I have the capability of adding timing through my handheld and making another 100 HP if I wanted...it's all just a number. I try not to place a big emphasis on a dyno number because it really doesn't matter. I just wanted to have an idea where I'm at.
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05-18-2014, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
Dont take it personally. Your car is probably quick for what it is. It just takes alot for a Stang to overcome the Vette's advantages. A Stang needs to make about 150rw more to do so. If you hook and get a good jump it could be a good race!
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Stop telling the truth damnit!
Originally Posted by Dark Pony
I have the capability of adding timing through my handheld and making another 100 HP if I wanted...it's all just a number. I try not to place a big emphasis on a dyno number because it really doesn't matter. I just wanted to have an idea where I'm at.
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Are you saying the amount of power the car makes doesn't matter in a race?
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05-18-2014, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto
Stop telling the truth damnit!
Are you saying the amount of power the car makes doesn't matter in a race?
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You obviously didn't comprehend what I said. You want a number? Shit, in 3 minutes my car can make 720HP...what the hell does it matter? This wasn't a "let's talk about racing other cars" thread. It was what my car makes on an extremely efficient and reliable tune.
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05-19-2014, 07:36 AM
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That's a perfect round number!! Nice.. it does take a lot to over come the corvette advantage. . I mean first they have the weight savings from those tiny penis. Then it's been proven if you have a button down shirt half open the airflow over that much chest hair gives a lower drag coefficient, combine that with a quart of 10w 30 in the hair or bald.. and that's a slick car.. furthermore the lack of a girl in the passenger seat and no extra seats for family.. (mostly from ED issues) and you have so many things to overcome.
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05-19-2014, 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by fordplay
that's a perfect round number!! Nice.. It does take a lot to over come the corvette advantage. . I mean first they have the weight savings from those tiny penis. Then it's been proven if you have a button down shirt half open the airflow over that much chest hair gives a lower drag coefficient, combine that with a quart of 10w 30 in the hair or bald.. And that's a slick car.. Furthermore the lack of a girl in the passenger seat and no extra seats for family.. (mostly from ed issues) and you have so many things to overcome.
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lmao
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05-19-2014, 08:42 AM
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Originally Posted by fordplay
That's a perfect round number!! Nice.. it does take a lot to over come the corvette advantage. . I mean first they have the weight savings from those tiny penis. Then it's been proven if you have a button down shirt half open the airflow over that much chest hair gives a lower drag coefficient, combine that with a quart of 10w 30 in the hair or bald.. and that's a slick car.. furthermore the lack of a girl in the passenger seat and no extra seats for family.. (mostly from ED issues) and you have so many things to overcome.
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That's funny. It doesn't describe me at all.
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05-19-2014, 09:31 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
It just takes alot for a Stang to overcome the Vette's advantages. A Stang needs to make about 150rw more to do so.
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Originally Posted by fordplay
That's a perfect round number!! Nice.. it does take a lot to over come the corvette advantage. . I mean first they have the weight savings from those tiny penis. Then it's been proven if you have a button down shirt half open the airflow over that much chest hair gives a lower drag coefficient, combine that with a quart of 10w 30 in the hair or bald.. and that's a slick car.. furthermore the lack of a girl in the passenger seat and no extra seats for family.. (mostly from ED issues) and you have so many things to overcome.
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05-19-2014, 09:58 AM
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Originally Posted by DirtyD
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Ha! I'm just giving you guys with less street experience a lil heads up to go armed with some info. You guys can believe me, or don't, its all good. By all means, go out and give it a shot.
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05-19-2014, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Dark Pony
You obviously didn't comprehend what I said. You want a number? Shit, in 3 minutes my car can make 720HP...what the hell does it matter? This wasn't a "let's talk about racing other cars" thread. It was what my car makes on an extremely efficient and reliable tune.
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Yet the thread is titled "Lucille's Dyno Numbers" LOL. Apparently you didn't comprehend the title of your own thread.
I don't know who the fuck pissed in your Cheerios but, no need to be a dick about asking something relevant to the actual thread.
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05-19-2014, 10:05 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
Ha! I'm just giving you guys with less street experience a lil heads up to go armed with some info. You guys can believe me, or don't, its all good. By all means, go out and give it a shot.
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Just poking at you. Everyone knows what a heavy Mustang needs to really compete with a Vette. Not exactly rocket science.
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05-19-2014, 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto
Are you saying the amount of power the car makes doesn't matter in a race?
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In a manner, I will say "Yes!"
The peak point on a dyno sheet is nowhere near as critical as the area under the curve on the same dyno sheet.
As for the vs vette discussions; regardless of the advantages it still comes down to the drivers. As long as the cars are close in performance.
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05-19-2014, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by rlhay2
In a manner, I will say "Yes!"
The peak point on a dyno sheet is nowhere near as critical as the area under the curve on the same dyno sheet.
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I understand that but, I am not talking about peak only power. A dyno shows the power from 0rpm to redline.
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05-19-2014, 11:09 AM
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Peak numbers mean squat. There are a ton of variables that come into play when it comes to racing. My statement of a Stang needing an additional 150rw is a simplified way of putting it.
Jonathon's best chance to beat Zeek would be at the track forcing Zeek to attempt to launch the car without breaking the rear in the car. Otherwise he will have to leave soft and try to chase him down before the traps. By limiting the distance, it gives the Stang a good chance. However, on the street, from a roll with doing a full pull, the Stang is at a serious disadvantage due to power to weight, gearing and aerodynamics.
From a roll, Zeek NA to Jonathon's boost, it should be a decent race providing Jonathon has traction (which he should on those tires). The distance of the race will determine how many cars Zeek will put out front cuz the Vette will undoubtly backdoor the hell out of a blown Stang.
Zeek on spray, forget it. Someone should call the Homicide Unit cuz there would be a murder going down.
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05-19-2014, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
Peak numbers mean squat. There are a ton of variables that come into play when it comes to racing. My statement of a Stang needing an additional 150rw is a simplified way of putting it.
Jonathon's best chance to beat Zeek would be at the track forcing Zeek to attempt to launch the car without breaking the rear in the car. Otherwise he will have to leave soft and try to chase him down before the traps. By limiting the distance, it gives the Stang a good chance. However, on the street, from a roll with doing a full pull, the Stang is at a serious disadvantage due to power to weight, gearing and aerodynamics.
From a roll, Zeek NA to Jonathon's boost, it should be a decent race providing Jonathon has traction (which he should on those tires). The distance of the race will determine how many cars Zeek will put out front cuz the Vette will undoubtly backdoor the hell out of a blown Stang.
Zeek on spray, forget it. Someone should call the Homicide Unit cuz there would be a murder going down.
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Johnathan has swapped to 3.15 gears, so he will be able to hang in boost for a good while...may or may not help though, just throwing that out there.
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