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04-11-2014, 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
I kinda understand why Ford does what they do with their transmissions trying to keep costs down knowing most of the customer base aren't guys like us who mod the hell out of our cars and beat on them. We are a very small part of their sales. I was surprised to find out that most buyers of base GT's are....women! Where are all these female owners!??
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+1.
I don't know where this idea that most people that buy V8 Mustangs are track guys but, this has been the truth for decades. Same with any other performance car.
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04-11-2014, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
I just can't see Ford putting in one of those really high end transmissions in the regular GT because it would drive up the cost of the car too much. It's already getting too expensive for a lot of their customer base. I could be wrong though. /shrug
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If they werent fucken idiots they could figure it out. VW has the fastest and best one in the world, and it doesnt cost but a grand as an option. Id pay a grand for a dsg everyday in any car... especially a Mustang. its rated 3 tenths! Faster to 60 than a stick in their new R...
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04-11-2014, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by STROKD
If they werent fucken idiots they could figure it out. VW has the fastest and best one in the world, and it doesnt cost but a grand as an option. Id pay a grand for a dsg everyday in any car... especially a Mustang. its rated 3 tenths! Faster to 60 than a stick in their new R...
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Most of their customer base are women for the GT's who don't give a damn about 3 tenths here and there. They want it comfortable, sporty and pretty.
The upper trim levels are more meant for the guys which is why the GT500 is such a large step beyond the GT with it's aggressive suspension, horsepower and exhaust note.
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04-11-2014, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
Most of their customer base are women for the GT's who don't give a damn about 3 tenths here and there. They want it comfortable, sporty and pretty.
The upper trim levels are more meant for the guys which is why the GT500 is such a large step beyond the GT with it's aggressive suspension, horsepower and exhaust note.
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I understand, but they could still figure it out if they cared to. There is no downside, better mpg than an auto with better shifting comfort and better performance. You should drive the gti sometime, you will see why its really the only transmission that needs to exist. Its nit like Dave's Lambo herky jerky shit... lmao
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04-11-2014, 11:52 AM
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Originally Posted by STROKD
I understand, but they could still figure it out if they cared to. There is no downside, better mpg than an auto with better shifting comfort and better performance. You should drive the gti sometime, you will see why its really the only transmission that needs to exist. Its nit like Dave's Lambo herky jerky shit... lmao
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LOL, TT Lambo or not, that would drive me insane with that nonsense.
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04-11-2014, 12:04 PM
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You would at least think they would offer an upgrade option through Ford Racing or something for a better built trans at least for the people that do mod it. There is no way Ford doesn't realize the Mustang is the most modified vehicle in the US, especially for drag racers and road trackers. Hell NMRA has a class dedicated solely to Coyotes/Mustangs now! That's saying something.
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04-11-2014, 01:04 PM
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Where's all this 'large portion of GT buyers' being women coming from? I see lots of women in Mustangs, but they're all in V6s. Every GT driver I see is a guy.
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04-11-2014, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DirtyD
You would at least think they would offer an upgrade option through Ford Racing or something for a better built trans at least for the people that do mod it. There is no way Ford doesn't realize the Mustang is the most modified vehicle in the US, especially for drag racers and road trackers. Hell NMRA has a class dedicated solely to Coyotes/Mustangs now! That's saying something.
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Solid points.
Originally Posted by rriddle3
Where's all this 'large portion of GT buyers' being women coming from? I see lots of women in Mustangs, but they're all in V6s. Every GT driver I see is a guy.
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Ford has been saying that for years and also says it increases every year.
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04-11-2014, 02:48 PM
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
Solid points.
Ford has been saying that for years and also says it increases every year.
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Ford is full of shit.
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04-11-2014, 02:52 PM
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Originally Posted by STROKD
Ford is full of shit.
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I don't think it's out of the realm of possibility. My wife has a Mustang and she got it cuz it's pretty and sounds good. She couldn't give two fucks how fast it is or isn't.
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04-11-2014, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DirtyD
I wonder if this will force AM/Bama out of the tuning game after some people see what's in their tunes...
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I'd like to say yes, but I'm already amazed that a company is still in business when they are pretty much known for crappy chinese wheels and crappy tunes. They sell the hell out of both, the masses buy the cheapest thing.
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04-11-2014, 03:46 PM
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Originally Posted by kdanner
I'd like to say yes, but I'm already amazed that a company is still in business when they are pretty much known for crappy chinese wheels and crappy tunes. They sell the hell out of both, the masses buy the cheapest thing.
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That is because there are a LOT of people who buy these cars who can't really afford them and mod them as cheap as possible. The same unexperienced people who have not learned that valuable lesson of getting what you pay for.
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04-11-2014, 03:53 PM
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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT
That is because there are a LOT of people who buy these cars who can't really afford them and mod them as cheap as possible. The same unexperienced people who have not learned that valuable lesson of getting what you pay for.
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They seem to cater to the V6 community a lot, which I can understand as there really isn't much 3.7 support that is widely known out there as much as Bama.
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04-11-2014, 03:54 PM
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That's it's. I am cheap because I don't want to put $6k wheels on a $25k car lol. I guess with that logic, I am also cheap because I bought a Mustang instead of a 458 Italia. I got what I paid for, just like everyone else who bought a Mustang lol.
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04-11-2014, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto
That's it's. I am cheap because I don't want to put $6k wheels on a $25k car lol. I guess with that logic, I am also cheap because I bought a Mustang instead of a 458 Italia. I got what I paid for, just like everyone else who bought a Mustang lol.
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Yet again, you're exaggerating for effect. My point is that people buy these nice cars and then cheap out on important things like a quality tune. I don't give a shit if you bought some cheap cast wheels from AM or not. That's your decision that you went with that works best for you and your budget. But there is things you don't skimp on that is anything that has to do with engine management and longevity.
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