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**KurvStr8nr** · 03-20-2014, 11:09 PM

The reason you don't have wheel hop is because you reduced the dynamic load on the rear wheels when you lowered the car (which alters LCA geometry) which makes it spin the tires more easily. If you want to get your grip back, install some LCA relocation brackets to correct the rear end goemetry. You can get them from Vorshlag (Whiteline mfg'd).

Varilux · 03-20-2014, 11:13 PM

If you want to get your grip back, install some LCA relocation brackets to correct the rear end goemetry.

Thanks for the tip! While the spinning is definitely better than the wheel hop, its still keeping me from putting the power to the ground. I'll have to look into relocating the brackets as you suggest! As it is, it just feels like the rear is going to go round on me when I punch it in 2nd.

re-rx7 · 03-20-2014, 11:33 PM

Originally Posted by KurvStr8nr

The reason you don't have wheel hop is because you reduced the dynamic load on the rear wheels when you lowered the car (which alters LCA geometry) which makes it spin the tires more easily. If you want to get your grip back, install some LCA relocation brackets to correct the rear end goemetry. You can get them from Vorshlag (Whiteline mfg'd).

Looking into this.

**DirtyD** · 03-21-2014, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by KurvStr8nr

The reason you don't have wheel hop is because you reduced the dynamic load on the rear wheels when you lowered the car (which alters LCA geometry) which makes it spin the tires more easily. If you want to get your grip back, install some LCA relocation brackets to correct the rear end goemetry. You can get them from Vorshlag (Whiteline mfg'd).

^This.

It also helps to have some actual tires under there too. Those Pirellis aren't known to be grip machines.

Varilux · 03-21-2014, 11:51 AM

Well, I know the Pirellis are useless in the cold (drove 19 miles down I-35 to work on one of the 18 degree ice days... scariest ride I've ever had). I was assuming they are supposed to be extremely grippy on warm days. What is Ford's rationale for including them with the Track Pack?

I'm looking forward to wearing them out so I can put some Continental ExtremeContact DWS tires on there- I've had them on 3 different vehicles, and they are tremendous.

**DirtyD** · 03-21-2014, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by Varilux

Well, I know the Pirellis are useless in the cold (drove 19 miles down I-35 to work on one of the 18 degree ice days... scariest ride I've ever had). I was assuming they are supposed to be extremely grippy on warm days. What is Ford's rationale for including them with the Track Pack?

I'm looking forward to wearing them out so I can put some Continental ExtremeContact DWS tires on there- I've had them on 3 different vehicles, and they are tremendous.

Because Ford has a contract with Pirelli for a lot of their "higher end" tires on vehicles. There are some Pirellis that are excellent, but the P Zero that come on the Brembo and Track Pack aren't as good as they should be for a car like ours.

Also, on those Continentals, are you getting DW or DWS? The DWS is an all season, so grip will be marginal. You would want the DW as it's the summer tire.

Varilux · 03-21-2014, 02:55 PM

I've always ordered the DWS tires over the DWs (because the tread wear is about twice as long). I've never had any traction issues with the DWS tires, and one set was on a tuned turbocharged Saab 9-3 Aero that spun tires like crazy (the 2.8T V6 in those cars was quite a nice setup). The side walls aren't as stiff as they could be for cornering, but otherwise its the perfect tire.