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**03MachMe** · 07-26-2013, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

A $50k Boss? Their idiots. A fully optioned, non-LS Boss should be $47k or so. I think an LS may reach above $50k.

MT comparing the 1LE to the Track Pack 5.0 was somewhat of an even matchup, but still not entirely fair.

An LS with the dealer mark ups were easily $50k

**DirtyD** · 07-26-2013, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by 03MachMe

An LS with the dealer mark ups were easily $50k

That's what I figured.

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**FastFordDriver** · 07-26-2013, 09:49 PM

Maybe one day GM will quit playing catch-up with Ford, too.

There may be something about the new Z28 over at www.dfwcamaros.com. Not sure.

**Dominic Toretto** · 07-27-2013, 08:58 AM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

MT comparing the 1LE to the Track Pack 5.0 was somewhat of an even matchup, but still not entirely fair.

According to MT, Ford supplied the exact car because they thought it was fair.

Originally Posted by FastFordDriver

Maybe one day GM will quit playing catch-up with Ford, too.

Wasn't the LS1 F-body faster than all the non-blown Mustangs for awhile?

-Alex

**46Tbird** · 07-27-2013, 09:04 AM

Buncha haters in here! That Z28 is a bad motherfucker. All motor 500hp 427? Yes please.

re-rx7 · 07-27-2013, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by 46Tbird

Buncha haters in here! That Z28 is a bad motherfucker. All motor 500hp 427? Yes please.

Yes 500hp is alot. However, when you can buy a Base Shelby for damn near the same price it becomes a no brainer.

**Dominic Toretto** · 07-27-2013, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by 46Tbird

Buncha haters in here! That Z28 is a bad motherfucker. All motor 500hp 427? Yes please.

Add to that 470tq. For all those complaining about the 5.0 not being torquey enough.

I'm a car guy, I don't subcribe to one particular brand. Corvettes, Vipers, Stangs, Supras, Evos... I like'em all

. I give credit where credit is due. Like when the 5.0 came out and trumped the LS3 Camaro. So technically Ford "caught up" with Chevy since the 4.6 GT was horribly lacking compared to the 426hp SS. Just sayin.

-Alex

re-rx7 · 07-27-2013, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto

Add to that 470tq. For all those complaining about the 5.0 not being torquey enough.

I'm a car guy, I don't subcribe to one particular brand. Corvettes, Vipers, Stangs, Supras, Evos... I like'em all

. I give credit where credit is due. Like when the 5.0 came out and trumped the LS3 Camaro. So technically Ford "caught up" with Chevy since the 4.6 GT was horribly lacking compared to the 426hp SS. Just sayin.

-Alex

Technically GM is playing catchup because they quit making the Camaro and Firebird for 10years because the mustang was out selling them both combined. Flipside to that is that GM is making alot of fast cars all the while taking a bath on some of them for image. This pisses me off because they are still on the tax payers dime for the bailout.

**Dominic Toretto** · 07-27-2013, 10:07 AM

Originally Posted by re-rx7

Technically GM is playing catchup because they quit making the Camaro and Firebird for 10years because the mustang was out selling them both combined. Flipside to that is that GM is making alot of fast cars all the while taking a bath on some of them for image. This pisses me off because they are still on the tax payers dime for the bailout.

When I think about how a car performs around a track, I really don't consider the company's business model. If a car is fast, it's fast

-Alex

**JDMLOL** · 07-27-2013, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by re-rx7

Technically GM is playing catchup because they quit making the Camaro and Firebird for 10years because the mustang was out selling them both combined. Flipside to that is that GM is making alot of fast cars all the while taking a bath on some of them for image. This pisses me off because they are still on the tax payers dime for the bailout.

I sort of see where some would think about GM in this way, but to be honest, I think most of us would agree that a company's goal is to make money. GM killed the Camaro because sales were soft, they tried introducing the GTO and it ended up the same way. GM reintroduced a redesigned Camaro after an eight year hiatus in hopes to recapture their portion of the pony car market. I don't think GM is purposely wasting money, I think they have just made some poor decisions. Look at them the Volt was a failure and a little before it's time, they tried similar things in the 90s. These big ass 2 mode Escalade hybrids, really? What a joke. I used to love GM's products and some of them I still do especially pre-bailout models like the fourth gen camaros (ironically), the gmt800 platform trucks, SS Trailblazers, etc... but the more I drive my car and the more I ride in my dad's new FX2, the more I'm loving Ford products. They're better priced than GM, just as reliable, look good, and run good. Have ya'll seen those new GM fullsized trucks? Those things are ugly.