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**Pepperinyoureye** · 07-25-2013, 11:41 PM

I love my 3k HID fogs/7k combo

**DirtyD** · 07-26-2013, 12:21 AM

Originally Posted by Pepperinyoureye

I love my 3k HID fogs/7k combo

7000K?!?!

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re-rx7 · 07-26-2013, 01:01 AM

7k Jesus you can't see shit with 6k lol!! The strain on your eyes has to hurt like hell!

**JDMLOL** · 07-26-2013, 08:03 AM

Originally Posted by re-rx7

7k Jesus you can't see shit with 6k lol!! The strain on your eyes has to hurt like hell!

That's why I always went with 4300k, that greenish blue hue on everything got old with the 8000k.

**DirtyD** · 07-26-2013, 08:07 AM

Anything higher than 6000k is pointless.

Even then 6000k can be on the boundaries.

50W 6000K is another story.

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re-rx7 · 07-26-2013, 09:18 AM

I went 4300 as well. Just a bit brighter then OEM. The yellow fogs really helped this morning. People sem to think the higher the Kelvin the brighter the light. SHIT.

**DirtyD** · 07-26-2013, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by re-rx7

I went 4300 as well. Just a bit brighter then OEM. The yellow fogs really helped this morning. People sem to think the higher the Kelvin the brighter the light. SHIT.

That's because they are uneducated on the subject and shops will do anything to sell that crap. I wish manufacturers would stop making anything above 6000K. But obviously that won't happen.

The factory lights on the 2013 are something like 4200K-4300K, I think. A good upgrade would be to find some 4500K-5000K bulbs. I know there is a guy on SVTP that put 5000K DDM bulbs in his car, but I never saw a picture. What sucks is that not many people make D3S bulbs in other colors...

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re-rx7 · 07-26-2013, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

That's because they are uneducated on the subject and shops will do anything to sell that crap. I wish manufacturers would stop making anything above 6000K. But obviously that won't happen.

The factory lights on the 2013 are something like 4200K-4300K, I think. A good upgrade would be to find some 4500K-5000K bulbs. I know there is a guy on SVTP that put 5000K DDM bulbs in his car, but I never saw a picture. What sucks is that not many people make D3S bulbs in other colors...

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Most OEM is 4300k. I tried 5k in my Is300 one time and hated it. I was always getting high beamed. LOL I like it to keep it simple and clean. The only real reason I started using yellow fogs was because the Is300 came with them from the factory. Ihate having that those cars behind me or oncoming. Cant see shit and I know they cant either.

**JDMLOL** · 07-26-2013, 09:54 AM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

That's because they are uneducated on the subject and shops will do anything to sell that crap. I wish manufacturers would stop making anything above 6000K. But obviously that won't happen.

The factory lights on the 2013 are something like 4200K-4300K, I think. A good upgrade would be to find some 4500K-5000K bulbs. I know there is a guy on SVTP that put 5000K DDM bulbs in his car, but I never saw a picture. What sucks is that not many people make D3S bulbs in other colors...

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Exactly. Also the human eye is more sensitive to green or violet than yellow/white. The horrible glare from those bluish bulbs gives people the misconception that they're brighter than halogen when in reality they're not and you're screwed on a rainy night going down a dark road.

re-rx7 · 07-26-2013, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

That's because they are uneducated on the subject and shops will do anything to sell that crap. I wish manufacturers would stop making anything above 6000K. But obviously that won't happen.

The factory lights on the 2013 are something like 4200K-4300K, I think. A good upgrade would be to find some 4500K-5000K bulbs. I know there is a guy on SVTP that put 5000K DDM bulbs in his car, but I never saw a picture. What sucks is that not many people make D3S bulbs in other colors...

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Originally Posted by JDMLOL

Exactly. Also the human eye is more sensitive to green or violet than yellow/white. The horrible glare from those bluish bulbs gives people the misconception that they're brighter than halogen when in reality they're not and your screwed on a rainy night going down a dark road.

I bought some HID's from a shop for my gf's MS3 and he tld me they were 4300k. Got home threw them in and those bitches looked like 6-8k! I figured id take them back the next week and swap them. Just so happened it rained before I could get them back. She drove my car everday it rained.

**JDMLOL** · 07-26-2013, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by re-rx7

I bought some HID's from a shop for my gf's MS3 and he tld me they were 4300k. Got home threw them in and those bitches looked like 6-8k! I figured id take them back the next week and swap them. Just so happened it rained before I could get them back. She drove my car everday it rained.

8000k in rain is similar to shining a blue led on a black piece of construction paper, you can't see the reflection for shit.

re-rx7 · 07-26-2013, 10:03 AM

Originally Posted by JDMLOL

8000k in rain is similar to shining a blue led on a black piece of construction paper, you can't see the reflection for shit.

SFT!!!

**DirtyD** · 07-26-2013, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by re-rx7

Most OEM is 4300k. I tried 5k in my Is300 one time and hated it. I was always getting high beamed. LOL I like it to keep it simple and clean. The only real reason I started using yellow fogs was because the Is300 came with them from the factory. Ihate having that those cars behind me or oncoming. Cant see shit and I know they cant either.

Yeah, you are correct. I thin some leans a little more towards 4400-4500K, like Benz and BMW, or their projector setups are just that awesome with amazing color shift.

Originally Posted by JDMLOL

Exactly. Also the human eye is more sensitive to green or violet than yellow/white. The horrible glare from those bluish bulbs gives people the misconception that they're brighter than halogen when in reality they're not and you're screwed on a rainy night going down a dark road.

I've tried explaining that to people, but they are ignorant. On top of what you stated, blue light is the most sensitive to light refraction than any other color, which is why those blue lights are completely worthless in the rain, and dangerous to other drivers because of the glare they create. I love coming up beside a donk or some other hoopty running 8000K+ HIDs and completely drowing out their light pattern with my headlights on my car.

re-rx7 · 07-26-2013, 10:11 AM

Originally Posted by DirtyD

Yeah, you are correct. I thin some leans a little more towards 4400-4500K, like Benz and BMW, or their projector setups are just that awesome with amazing color shift.

I think its the projectors. Every German car Ive seen uses the best projectors. The americas are a little behind on this still. [/QUOTE]

**Dan12GT** · 07-26-2013, 10:53 AM

Right now I have 6000k DDM tuning kit on my stock 11-12 non HID head lamps. I love it, never had major problems other than accidentally exposing my wiring harness to water (my fault). Light output is a lot better and cleaner looking. It tends to be a bit blue though, I feel like my old ballasts cranked out better wattage and made the light a bit more white looking. Anywho, I went with DDM mainly because of the price and the quality is impressive considering the price you are paying. I also have the GT/CS fasia fogs but not running HIDs in those. I have some aftermarket bulbs Brent referred me to. They are super bright white light with a very very subtle hint of blue. I just need to align the damn things. Aligning the 11-12 GT/CS fogs are a huge pain in the ass.