Originally Posted by fordplay
Funny stuff, I'm sorry a 3,900 lbs track car??
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Yup, just like the GTR is near two tons.
Originally Posted by fordplay
And it does have a rear seat because it uses it as a brace, also because if they removed it it would be a 2 seater and compete with the vette... GM said nope.
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If the GTR removed the backseat, it would compete with the Vette and GM said nope? Uhhh, The Corvette has been aimed at and beating several cars with backseats lol like the Porsche 911.
Originally Posted by fordplay
Lastly.. you forget this car is still GM (poor) engineering, when you design a car for plan for the future, you plan for what people will do to the car, you take into consideration repairs. .. GM does none of that, everyone here knows of the camaro heater core replacement debacle.
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Are you seriously suggesting that GM did a poor design on the car because of a failed heater core issue!? If that's the case, then explain the fuck up Ford did with the glass transmission in our Mustangs. People can't even drive a stock GT without having to worry about their manuals whining. Which would you rather pay for; a heater core or a transmission?
All cars have design flaws and crap that breaks.
Originally Posted by fordplay
We have all wrenched on our mustangs, most things seem thought out right? Replacement part prices are low, most mod parts bolt right up, the cai on this car is the easiest I've ever done.
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I've put CAIs on plenty of cars. If this was easy compared to any other car then you were clearly having instructional issues. A CAI is easy period.
Originally Posted by fordplay
The front brembo brakes were designed to out brake the camaro while still being able to bolt on the most widely used drag rims on the back, compare trunk sizes and openings.
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Now that's facetious. Any review I've read, heard and seen praises the brakes on a Camaro over the Mustang. The 1LE has better than the track pack and the ZL1 will consistently have better braking over a GT500 ALL day long.
Originally Posted by fordplay
Back to the z28, look what they had to do to make a car compete, instead of building a proper car they put tires on it that cost $600 each, before import cost, and with 6,000 tread life.
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Everyone on this board swaps out the stock tires for better tires, so what is your argument really? The car costs over $70k, if you can't afford $2,400 worth of tires for a car built for the track... you're doing it wrong.
Originally Posted by fordplay
Look at replacement cost for those brakes, and the suspension? Dear god that's expensive.
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The brakes will outlast the car. Why would you need to replace them?
Originally Posted by fordplay
It was designed as a daily driver race car... for the very rich maybe.
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Just because you can't afford it, doesn't mean you need to be rich to afford one. Don't use your personal agenda of not making enough money to afford this car to try to criticize it. Honestly, this stock Camaro is competing with cars a Mustang can't. And doing it for relatively cheap.
-Alex