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STROKD 01-14-2014 11:08 PM

2015 c7 z
 
What do you guys think? 625 hp 635 tq... whats cool for my dad (he wants a bad ass stock car with auto) is it has a new 8 spd auto that shifts faster than a Porsche PDK dual clutch and the roof still comes off! pretty bad as overall, the widebody and wing make it look serious business like. Hope

03MachMe 01-14-2014 11:47 PM

Looks like a cool car bit will have a price tag of over $100k

Bacadiesel 01-15-2014 01:03 AM

I also like the new vipers. Real close comparison between the two

re-rx7 01-15-2014 02:17 AM

The Porsche 911 won this years best drivers car with 100 less hp. There is a reason for a dual clutch. I'd like to know more about what constitutes quicker. As the Lamborghini aventador and lfa have a single clutch type auto and every mag that has tested it has complained.

Dominic Toretto 01-15-2014 09:05 AM

Homerun. Love that they are going to add an optional performance auto and has the targa panel. This car is all flavors of win.

-Alex

STROKD 01-15-2014 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 61249)
The Porsche 911 won this years best drivers car with 100 less hp. There is a reason for a dual clutch. I'd like to know more about what constitutes quicker. As the Lamborghini aventador and lfa have a single clutch type auto and every mag that has tested it has complained.

Vette is sticking with a real auto, not single or dual clutch... it shifts. 08 faster than the pdk. Thats what i meant by faster. Basically think of an auto V with another 80 hp and - 1000 lbs... and 2 extra gears for closer ratio acceleration... and Ryan is right it will be 100 to 140 grand loaded. I just hope they make a candy red or orange so I can drive my dad's as Ill never afford one. Rather have a GT at that point.

DirtyD 01-15-2014 10:36 AM

Car looks amazing, and will be an absolutely outstanding performer.

Good thing the ZR1 isn't being made anymore, because that car would be close to $200k, and well over 700 HP

Dominic Toretto 01-15-2014 11:16 AM

Chevrolet hasn't released pricing yet. Where are people getting these price figures? Guessing the same place people got the facts of the new Mustang weighing less than 3,200lbs.

-Alex

Junkie 01-15-2014 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto (Post 61277)
Chevrolet hasn't released pricing yet. Where are people getting these price figures? Guessing the same place people got the facts of the new Mustang weighing less than 3,200lbs.

-Alex

What makes you think it's not going to be in the 100k area?

Dominic Toretto 01-15-2014 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Junkie (Post 61281)
What makes you think it's not going to be in the 100k area?

Of course I don't know for sure since Chevrolet hasn't released pricing. I am simply going off of the trend for the Stingray. That car was a serious upgrade from the base C6 and they kept the price very close, just barely more than a C6 Grand Sport. I see the same thing happening with the ZO6. Base car should be slightly more than a C6Z but there are three trim levels, so I see the ZO7 package maybe getting more than $90k.

-Alex

STROKD 01-15-2014 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Junkie (Post 61281)
What makes you think it's not going to be in the 100k area?

Lol exactly, the gd z28 with no air or radio is 75! Lol

Base price 99,999.99 lmao oh you want nice seats and brakes, yea yours is 130k... thank you very much inflation.

STROKD 01-15-2014 11:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto (Post 61284)
Of course I don't know for sure since Chevrolet hasn't released pricing. I am simply going off of the trend for the Stingray. That car was a serious upgrade from the base C6 and they kept the price very close, just barely more than a C6 Grand Sport. I see the same thing happening with the ZO6. Base car should be slightly more than a C6Z but there are three trim levels, so I see the ZO7 package maybe getting more than $90k.

-Alex

Fyi, the carbon which was a zo7 was 100k. This is replacing the zr which hit 135ish... there is no way a zo7 costs under 110k. just wont happen.

And a nice z51 c7 is 75 k... little more than a loaded c6 z51 was... by like 20 grand

Dominic Toretto 01-15-2014 12:20 PM

We'll see. I could be wrong.

-Alex

Crimson600+HP 01-15-2014 12:34 PM

I think this car is a home run if you plan on leaving a vehicle stock. It has a ton of more usuable torque with the smaller supercharger. The 8 speed auto is going to be cool if it lives up to advertisment. I am worried about the reliablity of all this though as it took many years to make the LS block what it is. Numbers look great on this car though and it will be a hit IMO. The best Corvette is always the latest one.

I was hearing that the maxed out Z06 will not be too far north of 100K. Articles are stating Chevy won't vary far off the current C6 Z06 prices with base pricing estimated at 85K. I imagine that alot of the tech that is going on this car is going to be eventually shared, especially that 8 speed auto (ditching the 6sp one in the current C7).

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...06_first_look/

http://www.roadandtrack.com/go/first...e-stingray-z06

STROKD 01-15-2014 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson600+HP (Post 61294)
I think this car is a home run if you plan on leaving a vehicle stock. It has a ton of more usuable torque with the smaller supercharger. The 8 speed auto is going to be cool if it lives up to advertisment. I am worried about the reliablity of all this though as it took many years to make the LS block what it is. Numbers look great on this car though and it will be a hit IMO. The best Corvette is always the latest one.

I was hearing that the maxed out Z06 will not be too far north of 100K. Articles are stating Chevy won't vary far off the current C6 Z06 prices with base pricing estimated at 85K. I imagine that alot of the tech that is going on this car is going to be eventually shared, especially that 8 speed auto (ditching the 6sp one in the current C7).

http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...06_first_look/

http://www.roadandtrack.com/go/first...e-stingray-z06

If it is 100 loaded, that will be bad f'in ass. Good info! They also said though the z51 would be near old prices, and it is far beyond that, so as Alezx says who knows for sure till they hit lots. Still a great car, much improved over the Stingray which was barely better than its replacement.

Dominic Toretto 01-15-2014 12:50 PM

There's a lot of discussion over on CF about the 1.7L blower versus the 2.3L on the ZR1. The ZR1 did not employ direct injection and the blower does not spin to the same speed as the 20,000 on the 1.7L. Of course you techies can be of more knowledge to all that than myself. Lot's of information to learn.

-Alex

Dominic Toretto 01-15-2014 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STROKD (Post 61297)
the Stingray which was barely better than its replacement.

I'm guessing you were one of the people expecting ZR1 performance for $50k out of a base car.

-Alex

03MachMe 01-15-2014 01:11 PM

Willing to bet that you will not be able to buy one under 6 figures

DirtyD 01-15-2014 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 03MachMe (Post 61313)
Willing to bet that you will not be able to buy one under 6 figures

After they first hit showrooms, definitely not.

Dominic Toretto 01-15-2014 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 03MachMe (Post 61313)
Willing to bet that you will not be able to buy one under 6 figures

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-z...tx-market.html

Dealerships already offering MSRP... same as they did with the Stingray.
Taking your bet. What's the stakes?

-Alex

03MachMe 01-15-2014 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto (Post 61316)
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c7-z...tx-market.html

Dealerships already offering MSRP... same as they did with the Stingray.
Taking your bet. What's the stakes?

-Alex

That you stop being such a vette nut swinger?

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/01/14/c...not-happening/

Dominic Toretto 01-15-2014 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 03MachMe (Post 61319)
That you stop being such a vette nut swinger?

http://www.autoblog.com/2014/01/14/c...not-happening/

Neither of our posts confirms an official price son.

-Alex

03MachMe 01-15-2014 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto (Post 61322)
Neither of our posts confirms an official price son.

-Alex

Exactly pops..... With a loaded c7 costing over 70k I don't think they would price the z0 anywhere close to it and for the performance a 100k price is reasonable. This car replaces the zr1, which was over 100k. Not sure why you think this car is going to be under 100k. No sure why you even have a Mustang if better are that much better....

Grandpa 01-15-2014 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto (Post 61322)
Neither of our posts confirms an official price son.

-Alex

Take a break for a bit.

Dominic Toretto 01-15-2014 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 03MachMe (Post 61324)
Exactly pops..... With a loaded c7 costing over 70k I don't think they would price the z0 anywhere close to it and for the performance a 100k price is reasonable. This car replaces the zr1, which was over 100k. Not sure why you think this car is going to be under 100k. No sure why you even have a Mustang if better are that much better....

I have a Mustang because I wanted a Mustang seems pretty obvious. Not sure why that was brought up lol. Hope you aren't taking anything personal, you know you're the only cop I heart :).

If they price the ZO6 based on performance then, you may be correct to assume it will be priced over $100k. I've already stated why I think it won't be that much for a base ZO6 at 11:38.

-Alex

Grandpa 01-15-2014 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 03MachMe (Post 61324)
Exactly pops..... With a loaded c7 costing over 70k I don't think they would price the z0 anywhere close to it and for the performance a 100k price is reasonable. This car replaces the zr1, which was over 100k. Not sure why you think this car is going to be under 100k. No sure why you even have a Mustang if better are that much better....

There is nothing wrong with being a fan of other cars other than a Mustang. People get what they can afford.

Dominic Toretto 01-15-2014 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 61328)
Take a break for a bit.

Ryan is good people. I don't take anything personal on here and hope know one else does.

-Alex

03MachMe 01-15-2014 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 61330)
There is nothing wrong with being a fan of other cars other than a Mustang. People get what they can afford.

I am a fan of it too but getting tired of every post here recently on our mustang site being about how bad ass the new vette is.

Dominic Toretto 01-15-2014 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 03MachMe (Post 61333)
I am a fan of it too but getting tired of every post here recently on our mustang site being about how bad ass the new vette is.

This is the other cars section. Juss sayin.

-Alex

Grandpa 01-15-2014 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 03MachMe (Post 61333)
I am a fan of it too but getting tired of every post here recently on our mustang site being about how bad ass the new vette is.

The thread was clearly titled. You could have avoided reading it by not clicking on it. Hence the "other makes and models" section.

03MachMe 01-15-2014 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 61336)
The thread was clearly titled. You could have avoided reading it by not clicking on it. Hence the "other makes and models" section.

Steve your a known vette nut swinger your opinion doesn't count lol

Grandpa 01-15-2014 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 03MachMe (Post 61339)
Steve your a known vette nut swinger your opinion doesn't count lol

But yet you don't give me credit for the 15 Mustangs I've owned. I have two right now. How many do you have? ;)


I'm a car guy first. Mustangs just became a habit I never broke. lol

DirtyD 01-15-2014 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SlowGreyGT (Post 61340)
But yet you don't give me credit for the 15 Mustangs I've owned.

Then why were you on a rage quit for a couple of weeks talking about how your current car was just crap, you were bored with it, wanted to get a Vette, etc...

STROKD 01-15-2014 02:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto (Post 61301)
I'm guessing you were one of the people expecting ZR1 performance for $50k out of a base car.

-Alex

Nope, not at all... what would have been nice is the car costing maybe 5 to 8 grand more, not 20... but whatevs. i dont want one regardless.

STROKD 01-15-2014 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 61345)
Then why were you on a rage quit for a couple of weeks talking about how your current car was just crap, you were bored with it, wanted to get a Vette, etc...

I dont know about rage quit, but I do know he is bored with his car, and like myself with my Terminator, I bet he doesnt want to throw a bunch of money at the car to make it faster, and still not have any real fun with the car besides an occasional freeway on ramp pull. Vettes are just much more fun to drive, cruise, more comfortable, smoother, and having a Vette to me made me feel fuzzy inside. Having a Mustang just makes me feel empty and sad inside. (the mod motor variety anyway). Anyway, just my take on it, I bet hes just ready for a change in atmosphere, he's had 15 damn Stangs ge said... thought I was bad and Ive only had 8!

DirtyD 01-15-2014 03:03 PM

I guess you're right. There is a reason he's had 15 Mustangs...

Dominic Toretto 01-15-2014 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STROKD (Post 61347)
Nope, not at all... what would have been nice is the car costing maybe 5 to 8 grand more, not 20... but whatevs. i dont want one regardless.

Are you comparing used C6 prices to new C7 prices? A brand new MSRP C7 is less than $52k. New C6s are not $30k cars wtf?

-Alex

STROKD 01-15-2014 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dominic Toretto (Post 61351)
Are you comparing used C6 prices to new C7 prices? A brand new MSRP C7 is less than $52k. New C6s are not $30k cars wtf?

-Alex

No. I dont give a flying fuck about base, stop not reading what i write.

A 2009 Z51 brand new loaded 4lt etc was high 50s. A new c7 z51 loaded is high 70s. I cant compare a 2013 z51 because it doesnt exist, the GS had a lot more cool options to offer that the Stingray doesnt like wide body, dry sump, etc.

Even so a loaded GS was mid 60s which is a better performance car than the C7 which is still over 12 grand more.

New cars, not base models... hope that makes more sense.

Dominic Toretto 01-15-2014 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STROKD (Post 61352)
No. I dont give a flying fuck about base, stop not reading what i write.

Uh what?

Quote:

Originally Posted by STROKD (Post 61347)
Nope, not at all... what would have been nice is the car costing maybe 5 to 8 grand more, not 20... but whatevs. i dont want one regardless.

No where in this post did you state you were talking about a certain trim level.

Man some of you guys need to lighten up seriously. Sheesh, don't get mad at me because Walgreen's is out of stock of maxipads.

-Alex

Dominic Toretto 01-15-2014 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by STROKD (Post 61352)
Even so a loaded GS was mid 60s which is a better performance car than the C7 which is still over 12 grand more.

New cars, not base models... hope that makes more sense.

Better performance car!? The yagermeister is strong in this post. A Stingray has already been tested faster than a Grand Sport, it's nearly on par with a C6ZO6.

I understand you may not like the car but sheesh, no need to outright lie.

-Alex


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