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Craizie 07-09-2013 01:51 PM

Whats the best short throw?
 
As the title says, What's the best short throw for a '14 5.0?

GunsUp 07-09-2013 01:52 PM

MGW is what most will say

Phuck Phace 07-09-2013 02:00 PM

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Craizie 07-09-2013 02:00 PM

Cool. Has anyone else noticed the shifter feeling "rubbery" going into gears after a while? It's almost like it passes through a rubber seal and it doesnt want to go in gear.

DirtyD 07-09-2013 02:04 PM

Mgw

kanetrain 07-09-2013 02:16 PM

I like my Hurst. I didn't install the reverse LED that came with it, but I bet it's neat if you like that kind of thing.

kanetrain 07-09-2013 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Craizie (Post 39433)
Cool. Has anyone else noticed the shifter feeling "rubbery" going into gears after a while? It's almost like it passes through a rubber seal and it doesnt want to go in gear.

Yes I felt this a lot with the stock shifter. It wasn't after a while either, it was from the factory. You'll enjoy a short throw(any brand) a lot more than the stock. I even had the SR(off brand) short throw for a while and it worked perfectly. The mounting bolts on the bottom threaded themselves out and bent eventually so I couldn't put the car into 4th or 6th gear, but until that point it was fine.

JDBishopArts 07-09-2013 04:06 PM

MGW. Do it.

OG Fox 07-09-2013 04:48 PM

MGW is hands down the best. Hurst is complete crap, doesnt retain the reverse lockout so you could be in reverse or first, who knows. barton is decent but for a few more bucks you can nab the MGW. Ford Racing is basically the barton but over priced as hell.

Craizie 07-09-2013 07:40 PM

Thanks guys. Mine just started with the rubber feeling and it's really annoying. Any recommended places to buy one?

BLK2012GT 07-09-2013 08:02 PM

If no one has mention I really love my MGW shifter.

fordplay 07-10-2013 07:14 AM

OK... I have had zero trouble with the stock shifter. Next meet let's find one of each and compare for real!! I think I need to play with someone elses stick to see what I'm missing.. (oh yes I said that)

kanetrain 07-10-2013 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by OG Fox (Post 39458)
MGW is hands down the best. Hurst is complete crap, doesnt retain the reverse lockout so you could be in reverse or first, who knows. barton is decent but for a few more bucks you can nab the MGW. Ford Racing is basically the barton but over priced as hell.

You don't know how to tell if your car is in first or reverse? Maybe you should stick to an automatic from here on out.

03MachMe 07-10-2013 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by fordplay (Post 39562)
OK... I have had zero trouble with the stock shifter.

Same here. I drove nics car with the mgw and was nice but the stock one works just fine for me

DirtyD 07-10-2013 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by kanetrain (Post 39567)
You don't know how to tell if your car is in first or reverse? Maybe you should stick to an automatic from here on out.

What he is saying is that there is no effort involved in putting the car in reverse like you have to do with the stock shifter. You can easily downshift from 2nd to 1st and completely put the car in reverse and not actually move the shifter.

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Originally Posted by 03MachMe (Post 39572)
Same here. I drove nics car with the mgw and was nice but the stock one works just fine for me

You drove it? Dammit. All I got to do was sit in the seat and row the gears. But it still felt great.

re-rx7 07-10-2013 10:42 AM

I have the S&R shifter and I like mine.

kanetrain 07-10-2013 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 39660)
I have the S&R shifter and I like mine.

You put it on yet? Not bad right?

03MachMe 07-10-2013 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 39583)

You drove it? Dammit. All I got to do was sit in the seat and row the gears. But it still felt great.

I drove it for one pass at ennis because Nic couldn't do a burnout lol

re-rx7 07-10-2013 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by kanetrain (Post 39675)
You put it on yet? Not bad right?

Yup got her fixed and I love it. I owe yuh man. Haha

OG Fox 07-10-2013 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by kanetrain (Post 39567)
You don't know how to tell if your car is in first or reverse? Maybe you should stick to an automatic from here on out.

The Hurst Shifter doesn't keep the Reverse lockout feature so you have to install a led light to tell you when you're in reverse or in first.

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Originally Posted by kanetrain (Post 39675)
You put it on yet? Not bad right?

That's exactly what I like to say about products I put on my car "not bad right":snoopfacepalm:

kanetrain 07-10-2013 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by OG Fox (Post 39719)
The Hurst Shifter doesn't keep the Reverse lockout feature so you have to install a led light to tell you when you're in reverse or in first.



That's exactly what I like to say about products I put on my car "not bad right":snoopfacepalm:

Let me correct you. The Hurst shifter doesn't keep the reverse lockout feature, so you have the option to install an led light to tell you when you're in reverse. I'm a pretty good driver, so I can tell when I'm in reverse. (plus your factory gauge tells you)

As for your second comment, that SR performance shifter is actually pretty nice. I liked it a lot when I had it on my car.

OG Fox 07-10-2013 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by kanetrain (Post 39775)
Let me correct you. The Hurst shifter doesn't keep the reverse lockout feature, so you have the option to install an led light to tell you when you're in reverse. I'm a pretty good driver, so I can tell when I'm in reverse. (plus your factory gauge tells you)

As for your second comment, that SR performance shifter is actually pretty nice. I liked it a lot when I had it on my car.

I apologize for not being an expert on inferior products.

kanetrain 07-10-2013 05:06 PM

Ohhh it's ok. People talk our their asses all the time.

El_Tortuga 07-10-2013 05:12 PM

Obviously outnumbered here, but very happy with Barton and 2-post bracket. Rock solid, but a little buzzy noisy at times

OG Fox 07-10-2013 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by kanetrain (Post 39817)
Ohhh it's ok. People talk our their asses all the time.

ditto

Grandpa 07-10-2013 05:24 PM

After some research, talking with multiple people and trying different shifters in others cars I chose the MGW. It's a solid well thought out piece and kept the factory lockout option. The MGW is a whole unit to where as some other shifters felt more like a Band-Aid to keep the costs down.

As with any mod, it's all personal preference and budget.

Dark Pony 07-28-2013 11:50 PM

I just got a Barton with the 2 post bracket. I should have it this week and I'll be testing it out. I'm a pretty picky guy, so if I don't like it, I'll get an MGW. I do like the stock shifter though. It's very smooth and never had any issues with deflected shifts.

downtime! 07-29-2013 12:10 AM

Barton here as well, using the original Barton bracket. No complaints at all. This is the first time I've strayed away from MGW (had them on every Mustang I've owned in the past 7 years or so, even the 4.0 cars) and it turned out to be a pleasant surprise.

re-rx7 07-29-2013 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by OG Fox (Post 39784)
I apologize for not being an expert on inferior products.

Inferior? Really? Well it works fine and I havent had any problems out of it so does that still make it inferior? Plus it was free.

OG Fox 07-29-2013 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 42368)
Inferior? Really? Well it works fine and I havent had any problems out of it so does that still make it inferior? Plus it was free.

Have you used an MGW? have you compared the build qualities of the two shifters?

re-rx7 07-29-2013 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by OG Fox (Post 42418)
Have you used an MGW? have you compared the build qualities of the two shifters?

Ive felt both, yes. I could tell no differnce. Even if there were a small diff is it worth the xtra 400$? or $200 if I had to buy it?

downtime! 07-29-2013 01:45 PM

If you could honestly tell no difference between the two, that tells me you haven't actually driven a car with the MGW installed. There are several reasons why they cost twice as much, and when you actually drive a car with one installed, you will immediately be able to tell what they are. Noise and vibration, or the lack thereof, will be your first clue. Stock type operation, utilizing the push down lockout for reverse will be your second.

JDMLOL 07-29-2013 02:12 PM

I like my mgw. Decreased throw some, not a ton. I like it because it is very solid and direct. The stocker was okay, a little sloppy, but the mgw is great. I felt a barton car with the bracket and it felt good too. I never drove it though.

re-rx7 07-29-2013 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by downtime! (Post 42449)
If you could honestly tell no difference between the two, that tells me you haven't actually driven a car with the MGW installed. There are several reasons why they cost twice as much, and when you actually drive a car with one installed, you will immediately be able to tell what they are. Noise and vibration, or the lack thereof, will be your first clue. Stock type operation, utilizing the push down lockout for reverse will be your second.

You do realize the SR is push down lockout as well? I do not have any noise or vibration?

Midnight11 07-29-2013 02:20 PM

Mgw!!

downtime! 07-29-2013 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 42464)
You do realize the SR is push down lockout as well? I do not have any noise or vibration?

Didn't realize that, I thought they were like the Hurst. SR is American Muscles in house line right? I usually don't do bargain parts, but they have some good things as well, so maybe it's not too bad. I'll still stick with quality parts that were engineered in house and not whipped up from other peoples hard work.

JDMLOL 07-29-2013 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by downtime! (Post 42484)
Didn't realize that, I thought they were like the Hurst. SR is American Muscles in house line right? I usually don't do bargain parts, but they have some good things as well, so maybe it's not too bad. I'll still stick with quality parts that were engineered in house and not whipped up from other peoples hard work.

Usually the bargain parts are made by the same reputable named companies with a private brand's stamp on it. Not always, but most of the time. If a big name company has excess capacity they will produce extra units at a discounted price and lable them differently. It's not much different than store brand foods. Mrs. Baird's bread is put in a great value package. The question is, what name brand is making these parts? I believe ford racing parts are done the same way, except they are usually marked up with some sort of warranty.

re-rx7 07-29-2013 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by downtime! (Post 42484)
Didn't realize that, I thought they were like the Hurst. SR is American Muscles in house line right? I usually don't do bargain parts, but they have some good things as well, so maybe it's not too bad. I'll still stick with quality parts that were engineered in house and not whipped up from other peoples hard work.

I belive so and im not compaining it was free!
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Originally Posted by JDMLOL (Post 42486)
Usually the bargain parts are made by the same reputable named companies with a private brand's stamp on it. Not always, but most of the time. If a big name company has excess capacity they will produce extra units at a discounted price and lable them differently. It's not much different than store brand foods. Mrs. Baird's bread is put in a great value package. The question is, what name brand is making these parts? I believe ford racing parts are done the same way, except they are usually marked up with some sort of warranty.

Bargain places buy the part and copy it. Ask me how I know. I worked for Top Speed.

JDMLOL 07-29-2013 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 42488)
I belive so and im not compaining it was free!


Bargain places buy the part and copy it. Ask me how I know. I worked for Top Speed.

Without a license agreement or anything? The design wasn't patented? Hmm. I know that some companies do work the way I described.

re-rx7 07-29-2013 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JDMLOL (Post 42491)
Without a license agreement or anything? The design wasn't patented? Hmm. I know that some companies do work the way I described.

Even if its patented they change little details. Thats why some parts wor great but other flop and break. Because sometimes they have to change a detail that really matters. I know one time my boss was shipping out Cusco Anti roll bars to Taiwan to get copied. Fun fact according to him Taiwan has higher qulity control then that of China LOL

Im really suspect of some of these headers I see out and about. They look like chinese welds and thin walled piping. BBk headers for one.


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