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MnemonicGhost 05-11-2013 01:32 PM

Oil change cost?
 
Just got back from my first oil change at Bob Tomes in McKinney. I had whatever coupon they list online for the "works" at 39.99, but they said the 5.0 takes 8 quarts and the special only covered 5 of synthetic.

Price out the door was 76.10 with some "discount" to bring it to 68.46. I also have a 10 dollar mail in rebate thing too, but I doubt that will be always available.

So does that sound about right? At 70 bucks, I might as well do it myself, but I do like having dealer proof that it's maintained as well...

Midnight11 05-11-2013 01:35 PM

i think i paid 32 last time at the dealer...

Dan12GT 05-11-2013 01:41 PM

Thats about right. 8 quarts at $7-8 a quart plus filter puts you around 70-80 bucks, depending on the oil. The great thing is we can go 10k miles so it kind of balances out.

Luke 05-11-2013 01:42 PM

When I worked at the dealer we would take coupons from any legit quick lube place, and being that you're using synthetic that price makes sense. I'm not home so didn't want to make my wife deal with getting AMSOIL yet so it's getting RP right now and it was about $80 just for the oil... we do get free service though from the dealer so that helps.

BTW, what oil are you using?

MnemonicGhost 05-11-2013 01:50 PM

This is through the Ford dealership, so the oil should be motorcraft synthetic or a least semi-synthetic.

Luke 05-11-2013 02:01 PM

Motorcraft synthetic is garbage, it's not worth the extra money, if it's synthetic-blend you overpaid. SVTP and BITOG both have good write ups and info on synthetic oils. This next oil change I have RP 5w-30 HPS going in and the one after that will be AMSOIL SS 5w-30. I'll be sending out samples of the 5w-20 Motorcraft that is currently in it as well as on the next two changes. Blackstone Labs will send you a free sample kit if it's something you're interested in.

downtime! 05-11-2013 02:40 PM

$80 bucks every other month for mine, done at a local change place in Keller. I've used them for years and it's the only place I'd ever go.

Luke 05-11-2013 02:49 PM

Every other month? Why so often?

TrueStreetTim 05-11-2013 03:01 PM

Your looking at +/- $70 in oil and filter alone (depending on brand etc.). That's not including labor to rack and do the work. So $70 to me is a wash....or "service" if you prefer.

Grandpa 05-11-2013 03:08 PM

You're suppose to change the oil in these things?!

DirtyD 05-11-2013 03:45 PM

Oil change cost?
 
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Originally Posted by Steve (Post 29527)
You're suppose to change the oil in these things?!

If you drive it, yeah. :p

Grandpa 05-11-2013 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 29536)
If you drive it, yeah. :p

Oh, cool. So I'm good then. :troll3:

Dan12GT 05-11-2013 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtyd (Post 29536)
if you drive it, yeah. :p

boom!

DirtyD 05-11-2013 06:16 PM

Oil change cost?
 
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Originally Posted by Steve (Post 29540)
Oh, cool. So I'm good then. :troll3:

:lol:

downtime! 05-11-2013 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Luke (Post 29523)
Every other month? Why so often?

Because I drive the shit of if mine! LOL! Had her 23 months now and have nearly 40,000 miles on her. Heading out for a road trip Monday which should add at least 3500 to the clock.

Smurf50 05-11-2013 07:11 PM

Mine was over 90 just last week :( Kwik Kar at least had the Motorcraft 5w-20 and Motorcraft filter...so that was a plus...

re-rx7 05-11-2013 08:08 PM

There aren't any bad oils these days. That being said, Mobil isn't even considered top quality anymore.

DirtyD 05-11-2013 08:54 PM

Oil change cost?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Smurf50 (Post 29548)
Mine was over 90 just last week :( Kwik Kar at least had the Motorcraft 5w-20 and Motorcraft filter...so that was a plus...

Holy shit man, go to the dealer if you are going to use Ford oil and filter!

re-rx7 05-11-2013 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smurf50 (Post 29548)
Mine was over 90 just last week :( Kwik Kar at least had the Motorcraft 5w-20 and Motorcraft filter...so that was a plus...

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 29561)
Holy shit man, go to the dealer if you are going to use Ford oil and filter!

This.

Smurf50 05-11-2013 10:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DirtyD (Post 29561)
Holy shit man, go to the dealer if you are going to use Ford oil and filter!

So I learned... /sigh

merlinmol 05-11-2013 11:01 PM

Since I got the track pack, Ford puts in 5w-50. I used that for break in miles, but I had RP 5w-30 XPR for SEMA and recent track sessions. I just did the 2nd oil change a few weeks ago and went to RP 5w-30 HPS, the XPR is a little too rich for my blood and I don't consistantly race.

Toby 05-11-2013 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Dan12GT (Post 29511)
Thats about right. 8 quarts at $7-8 a quart plus filter puts you around 70-80 bucks, depending on the oil. The great thing is we can go 10k miles so it kind of balances out.

I would not do that.. 3k, 4k TOPS is all that I will recommend regardless of the type or brand.

Toby 05-11-2013 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 29554)
There aren't any bad oils these days. That being said, Mobil isn't even considered top quality anymore.

Depends who you ask. I run what ever brand oreillys has on special synthetic along with either a motor craft filter on the mustang and wix filter on the truck. Typically they will have valvoline or Mobil on sale for $30 with a filter..

re-rx7 05-11-2013 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby (Post 29580)
Depends who you ask. I run what ever brand oreillys has on special synthetic along with either a motor craft filter on the mustang and wix filter on the truck. Typically they will have valvoline or Mobil on sale for $30 with a filter..

This is true. Like I said all oils are pretty much even besides race oils which contain more zddp and zinc. Mobil is gd dont get me wrong, just not the leader it once was as the other companies have caught up.

re-rx7 05-11-2013 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby (Post 29579)
I would not do that.. 3k, 4k TOPS is all that I will recommend regardless of the type or brand.

5k is my minimum. If you change synthetic at 3k your just wasting money. I usually change mine every 5k sometimes 6k. The days of 3k miles oil changes are gone. :GetMoney:

downtime! 05-12-2013 12:09 AM

3k like clockwork here. It has always been good practice, and it still is. Especially if you actually use the car for what it was intended to do (and no, that doesn't mean just drive it). Trips to Mexico, trips to the track, just dailying a supercharged car, all good reasons to ignore the 10K guideline.

re-rx7 05-12-2013 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by downtime! (Post 29585)
3k like clockwork here. It has always been good practice, and it still is. Especially if you actually use the car for what it was intended to do (and no, that doesn't mean just drive it). Trips to Mexico, trips to the track, just dailying a supercharged car, all good reasons to ignore the 10K guideline.

So you can break down your synthetic oil in 3k miles? Its your car but your wasting money.

DirtyD 05-12-2013 12:31 AM

Oil change cost?
 
When I ran a regular oil in my truck, I changed as close to 3k as I could. Since ford switched to synth-blend, I still did 3k on my truck as it was up there in miles, but I wasn't as worries if I over shot by 1k or so.

Now with my car, I do 5k intervals in synth-blend, but I will be doing 7-8k intervals when I make the switch to full synthetic.

Smurf50 05-12-2013 12:41 AM

How accurate is the computer in the car for the oil life %? I changed mine when it said it was at 25% just to make sure (and I don't know what was done for the 11k miles that I DIDN'T own my car...)

Luke 05-12-2013 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by merlinmol (Post 29578)
Since I got the track pack, Ford puts in 5w-50. I used that for break in miles, but I had RP 5w-30 XPR for SEMA and recent track sessions. I just did the 2nd oil change a few weeks ago and went to RP 5w-30 HPS, the XPR is a little too rich for my blood and I don't consistantly race.

From what I've read the 5w-50 was just to cover all vehicles across the nation in all climates under harder driving conditions. I run the same RP HPS, what made you switch?

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Originally Posted by Toby (Post 29579)
I would not do that.. 3k, 4k TOPS is all that I will recommend regardless of the type or brand.

I change at 5k right now but this is part of why I'll be sending in oil samples to be tested, I'd like to see what's left in the oil. RP and AMSOIL are confident in getting 10k between changes under "normal" driving conditions.

merlinmol 05-12-2013 01:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Luke (Post 29590)
From what I've read the 5w-50 was just to cover all vehicles across the nation in all climates under harder driving conditions. I run the same RP HPS, what made you switch?

RP was one of my sponsors for SEMA, they gave me a case of 5w30 XPR which is their full race oil. I didn't see the sense in spending that kind of money to keep XPR so I stepped down to HPS since I don't race the car often enough to justify it. They use the same additive in both formula's.:favorites13:

Emwun Garand 05-13-2013 12:42 AM

9 quarts of Mobil 1 = $100

downtime! 05-13-2013 02:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by re-rx7 (Post 29586)
So you can break down your synthetic oil in 3k miles? Its your car but your wasting money.

How is it wasting money if the car gets driven hard and still runs like new? Would it do the same if I changed it less frequently? Maybe. Am I willing to find out? No. Oil changes are very cheap compared to the cost of a new engine.

re-rx7 05-13-2013 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by downtime! (Post 29650)
How is it wasting money if the car gets driven hard and still runs like new? Would it do the same if I changed it less frequently? Maybe. Am I willing to find out? No. Oil changes are very cheap compared to the cost of a new engine.

Because most likely you would be able run it at least 5k miles before it needs any changing under the same conditions. The idea of 3k mile oil changes was true in the old days. Oil has advanced plenty over the years. Also check out bobistheoilguy.com/

http://www.edmunds.com/car-care/stop...-your-oil.html

Zeek 05-13-2013 02:23 AM

I drive the crap outta my car. Changed the oil once so far and I'm at 17k miles! Had it 8 months.

re-rx7 05-13-2013 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeek (Post 29654)
I drive the crap outta my car. Changed the oil once so far and I'm at 17k miles! Had it 8 months.

Id def send in a sample and see how it looks.

downtime! 05-13-2013 08:56 PM

Always go with what works for you. I've been building and racing cars since the late 70s and have never had an oil related failure. I'll stick with 3000 mile changes.

Dan12GT 05-13-2013 10:17 PM

Oil change cost?
 
When it comes time to change my Amsoil ill be sending it off for analysis. I may change it at 8k just to see where I am at there.

re-rx7 05-13-2013 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by downtime! (Post 29837)
Always go with what works for you. I've been building and racing cars since the late 70s and have never had an oil related failure. I'll stick with 3000 mile changes.

Exactly your living in the 70's. Oil tech ahs came a long way just like engines. Saying the oil then is like the oil now is just stupid.:banghead:

DirtyD 05-14-2013 12:18 AM

Oil change cost?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeek (Post 29654)
I drive the crap outta my car. Changed the oil once so far and I'm at 17k miles! Had it 8 months.

That is just way to risky on a synth-blend oil, even if it's Motorcraft


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