z/28 review. .
 

I'm sorry does anyone else think these numbers are just lacking?? How is this car 200 lbs heavier than ours? And how is it so slow??

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/...ad-test-review

IB4GMCARSSUCKASS.

-Alex

It's a legit road course car, but I'm sure someone will come along and say that it has something that is still to be desired.

Hopefully Ford will come out with something in the next gen to come after this car.

I take the magazine reviews with a grain of salt. Many of them are biased one way or another being paid by someone. I'll reserve judgment until I see them in actual owners hands to see how they perform.

That is if anyone will actually buy one to race it at the road track instead of just sitting in a garage, or being built to run strictly 1/4 (which is incredibly retarded to do)

[the dude] Well..... that's just like.... your opinion, man [the dude]

I believe some owners will race them. Camaro owners are really no different than Mustang owners. Some of them are rabid racers who will take them out to beat them mercilessly and of course there will be those owners who will have them as garage queens only taking them to Cars and Coffee events just to be admired.

I'm just wondering how many people will actually pay the asking price + dealer markup for one. I don't know how many GM expects to sell, but I know it will be a limited production run.

At the end of the day, it's still a $75k+ Camaro when you could have a Corvette for almost the same money that will out perform it all day long. Unless you see it from the nostalgia point of view.

You're thinking like a single guy in regards to nothing but performance. Some people need more than a two seater and still want performance. Before buying my V, I was shopping for a Z06 but I just couldn't bring myself to purchase another car that my whole family could not fit into and most likely would not use a lot which is why my 5.0 has sat so much.

In short, I don't think anyone shopping for a Camaro would be seriously considering a Corvette.

LOL What? Come on, Steve. That argument doesn't make any sense here. I'm talking about shopping for the Z/28 versus a Corvette for the same price. Corvette will be much better performance for your money. Neither come with a back seat. The Z/28 is built strictly for performance. So why would you try and make an argument that try to not include performance?

Motortrend posted numbers testing in Cali.

0 to 60 - 4.0 sec

1/4 mile = 12.3 sec @ 117.2 mph

lateral Accel - 1.06 g (avg)

Not bad, the car has some grip. But I don't think it was purely anything magical that GM did. It was the 305s all the way around doing their job.

Doh, brainfart on my part. Forgot the Z/28 doesn't have a backseat. My mistake. lol


What puzzles me, is that they supposedly stripped this car down to the bare bones, but yet the car is still 3900lbs?!

LOL. It's okay. We can excuse the age. :p

This car was optioned with the additional stereo and AC, so it's not truly barebones. I think in complete "barebones" form, at least with the minimal amount of crap GM puts in it from the factory, it weighs around 3800 lbs...still fat.

Car is not meant to be a dragster, that's what the COPO Camaro is for. Same reasoning behind people turning Boss 302's into straight line only cars. I never understood why people want to make cars like this a dragster, but to each there own.

Motortrend did a video on the Z/28 recently and the car is a legend. Very reminicint of the Trans Am days where things like the Boss 429 was made (for us Mustang guys). MT had Randy Pobst (professional racecar driver and owns many track records for production cars) run the Z/28 at Barber's track in GA. It's times were faster by 6 seconds than a Nissan GTR I believe. This car will be a legend for people who drive it like it is meant to be used. $75K is not outrageous for this car IMO either. Considering what it can do, it is still a bargain. Also is the last chance for people to get ahold of that handbuilt LS7 before it goes the way of the dinosaurs.

One thing that Randy said that the Z/28 did not put the power down as well as the Boss 302 even though it was faster. Not bad for a stick axle. He also claimed a lot of the Z/28's grip is accredited to the R Comp 305's on the front once they were warmed up. I know for sure my car now running 285's in the front will do a alot more on the road course than it did with the 255's.

I really want to know how a Boss LS would compare to this car if they threw some of those same Pirelli R comps on and ran it.

I believe they come with the P-Zero Corsa's, which are tech. an R-COMP tire. But the Boss LS doesn't have a square setup (255's Front/285's Rear). I think a 285 all around would help the Boss tremendously, but the technology sinked into the suspension of the Z/28 wil keep the Boss LS far away IMO. I know this is a Mustang forum, but GM has the best suspension products out there for a car company for their performanc oriented cars.

I'll pass.

$75k for the car, plus $10-20k for dealer mark up. Add interest and you could easily have a $100k Camaro. Geez, that's nuts to me.

+1.

And I love the car and Chevy. Price is dumb $73,700.00 starting MSRP.

-Alex

This

Correct on the Corsas. I chimed in too soon.

Z/28 is badass, but clearly a street legal race car, and not a racy street car.

I don't think you can compare any boss to this, Live Axle vs IRS...

A lot of people complaining about a 75k Camaro, those same people probably are not the crowd GM was targeting. If I had the money I would buy one without a/c and all the other good stuff. You can easily get 600whp out of a LS7.

Exactly.

I readily admit, even if I could afford this car, I would not buy one because I am not the one of the target audience. This is like those stripped out Lotus cars that are also pretty expensive. Excellent track cars but, not something you really want to drive daily.

-Alex

Definately a fair weather toy for the rich redneck in us all.

Is it cool, yes. Is it something I want, no.

The hell with all of y'all for not getting my quote from The Big Lebowski. You all suck!!! EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.


Screw you guys, I'm going home

Never seen it. lol

I said long ago. The 305's are the reason for handling. Cars 1/4 is mehh at best. Like I said I think ford has better engines. When the playing field is equal the acceleration numbers don't lie and the new stang is gonna deliver the rest of the puzzle.

The z/28 is impressive, no doubt, and I'd love to tear around a road course in one but it's never been my choice, visually. I'd also hold out to see what Ford is going to do with the new 2015 IRS and Boss. (unless I'm way behind on things) I was super impressed by the Fiesta and Focus ST's so I know Ford can build a rival to the z/28.

Here is the link to the recent road/track test to Motortrend's YouTube review. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbdhNc_36Kc

I love my Mustang (and would love to challenge and lose to a Z/28), but this thing is out of the Boss's league. The Boss was targeted between the GT500 and the GT. Ford isn't bringing the Boss back, but I am sure a track targeted edition is coming out but not at the level of the Z/28. Don't get me wrong, I still love the ponycar wars that are going on and can't wait for Ford's response but I'm sure the GT350/Mach 1/SVT Cobra or whatever the top dog is going to be called is targeted straight at the ZL1 for all around performance.

I think Chevy did this just to flex their muscles and give a last hurrah to the LS7. This Z/28 challenges the GTR, which is regarded as the giant killer (at $115k+) so to me the Z/28 is a bargain.

Gtr challenger on the track my ass. It gets its ass mopped up 1.3 secs in the qtr. The gtr is also a 6yr old car and still the benchmark.

1/4 time don't matter with this car, so stop trying to use that as a validation point.

Boss is done and gone. GT350 is likely the next SVT variant

Ah, I didn't realize the Boss line was over with. We'll see what happens. I think the new mustang is definitely going after the track day enthusiast a little more than the straight line or maybe they're just modernizing. I was never an American car guy until this past year but have always loved the rivalry between the pony cars.

I am going to miss the LS7. heck. who isn't? You can't deny that was a great motor.

Pobst got it around Barber Motorsport's track in 1:36, the record 2012 GTR (not fully stock) did it in 1:42. I'm sure the GTR wasn't professionally driven, but I'm sure it wasn't piloted by a scrub like me either.

http://www.trackpedia.com/wiki/Barber_Motorsports_Park

By these numbers, it's not a challenger, the Z/28 is a destroyer to the GTR. Also, Nissan has updated that thing like almost every year since its release. I don't think anyone in the automotive world considers the current car 6 years old. I am sure someone will do a comparo against these two in the future though. Edge still goes to the Z/28's Super Trofeo tires though.

Show me solid proof with the same drivers and we will talk. As is the z28 gets its ass whipped by a 5.0 with radials. A gd drive can make a huge difference. Btw the 2014 gtr is faster then the old. The 12 had alot of understeer Nissan tuned out. Funny they didn't test it at willow. It's slower around the ring then the gtr.

Wtf is wrong with you? And you were a bowler to. Smh

If GM was confident about it they would have gone to willow, or laguna, but they didn't, it's great to build track cars, but here is the thing GM shouldn't forget, 98% of a cars reputation here is based from light to light and Saturday at the strip followed by tight autocross tracks, do you think this tank will win on a tight autocross track against a spec miata?? And on the way home when a light bolt on mustang beats it from light to light. Ford knew that, the boss not only does well on the track it kills straight lines. This will suffer the same fate at the zl1, over inflated hype and bruised egos of owners

By 5.0 with radials are you going back to straight line performance? If so thats back to apples to oranges comparison. I think a z28 could do 11s with a good driver on the strip then again thats like boss owners buying them and using them solely for drag racing.

Ive got my mullet wig still from my 4th gens so im ready

That GT-R was the Track Edition and not a 2015 model nor a Nismo. MotorTrend has confirmed that they will have a Nismo and GT3 later at Laguna Seca. I just read the article last night on my ipad LMAO. It has info that's intentionally missing from the internet article. So yeah it will have the same driver (Randy), same environment etc....I think it's the annual best driver's car competition.